Thanks Lyn. I'll give that a try. I had the 87 in the MSB column and the 64 in the LSB column so I'll swap them around and see what happens. The Roland patch list does say that the 64 is the Bank LSB. proof of the pudding is in the eating. Notsure whether the dirver is at the top of the list either but it is sending the information. Its works just not properly.

cheers

Glenn