Originally Posted By: Mac
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn

scientists must work within the constraints placed upon them. so if you live in a culture that believes some women are witches and must be burned at the stake you'd be well advised not to push too hard on the status quo. smile


And in one fell stroke you attempt to throw Sir Francis Bacon's historic and revolutionary treatise describing the scientific method out the window?

Your given example is illogical.

Not at all. My point, as I am sure you understood, is people, even scientists, live within their society and must, to some degree, conform to the norms of their day in order to make any progress at all.

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also, not to pick nits but the source you cited is heavily biased toward judeo-christian religious views.


And the other side's sources cited are not biased?

huffington post?

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I gave you several sources, none of which have a stated and obvious bias toward one religion or another. Your single source is obviously and admittedly heavily biased. Even at HuffPost you will find writers and journalists with opposing viewpoints.


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as already shown in the Einstein quotes, these sources are great for supporting one's opinion but not so great for getting to the truth of the matter!


I listed 12 other great scientists besides Einstein, what about them?

Doesn't matter.

Someone else once said, "I am the way, the truth and the life."

--Mac

I certainly feel you should believe whatever you want. But you mentioned "truth" and religion has never been fact-based, rather, it is faith-based. The rules and regulations are dictated (you would say by god...I would say by men from the middle ages) and then expected to be followed, not questioned. That is not how science works. In science you are encouraged, no, required to be able to present a fact-based argument for what you believe and legions of other scientists are standing by to put your ideas to the test!