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Skyline #220513 11/08/13 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Skyline
I didn't perceive the 'issues' you listed. The only thing that struck me was I couldn't hear the Vocaloid words properly. Without lyrics to follow I would have struggled. I'm not familiar with Vocaloid so I don't know why that would be.


Hi, John.

I tweaked the mix a bit, so hopefully a number of problems were resolved. At the same time, I altered the vowels a bit to make them a bit more... "American English." I thought it helped with the clarity, but obviously problems remain.

But intelligibility is one of the problems with Vocaloids, and I'm not sure how to get around it. My own vocal synthesis program had this issue as well.

Then again, I've had my share of "real" songs that left me baffled as to what words the singer was singing.

Thanks for the feedback!


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First I can't envision the work that it must have taken to produce this. If it doesn't happen pretty quickly with me then I'm of to something else. This must take the patience of Job. But you have it and the results show -- immensely. Haunting, melancholy and yet peaceful. Wonderful production. I'll let you pick the nits -- we have none.


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very whimsical, a work well done! is the inspiration leaving Hogwarts for winter brake? or my second guess Alice In Wonderland?

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David,
This a beautiful song. The arrangement is particularly well done. This is the first time I've heard a vocaloid sing. Must be pretty interesting to work with.
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Originally Posted By: SpaceDog
David,
This a beautiful song. The arrangement is particularly well done. This is the first time I've heard a vocaloid sing. Must be pretty interesting to work with.
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Exactly my thoughts, very beautiful in every way.

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
This must take the patience of Job.

I should note that Vocaloids aren't really that hard to work with. Basically, you put the notes in using piano roll notation, and then type in words. The software automatically converts English into phonemes. You can fiddle with the phonemes if there are issues, but it mostly gets it right.

For someone like that that likes to fiddle with stuff, it's rather nice to be able to change the timing and pitch of a performance when working parts out. The only problem is that the Vocaloid editor I have is the cut-down version that only allows 18 bars of music and a single voice. That's plenty to build a verse or chorus with, but if I had support for more tracks, it would be easier to create harmonies and counterpoint on the fly.

The tedious bit was splicing together two different Vocaloids to get a clearer pronunciation - something I don't think was altogether successful, especially when listening through headphones. Rumor has it that an "American" Vocaloid is in the works. It'll be interesting to hear how it turns out.

Thanks for the nice words! smile


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Originally Posted By: gruverider
very whimsical, a work well done! is the inspiration leaving Hogwarts for winter break? or my second guess Alice In Wonderland?

Yes, "Alice In Wonderland" is in fact the inspiration - I think I mentioned a few details in a prior post.

The Vocaloid has a very ethereal quality which matches the lyric well. I'll see how well "real" vocals fit it later.


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