|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Add-ons and UserTracks for Band-in-a-Box
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
Kinda vague question but I was wondering about how dynamic? or stretchable loops are, in other words, if I have a guitar finger picking loop for "C" how many chords will biab transpose before the quality is degraded.
I've never worked with loops but I found some free finger picking loops that are about 2 sec and cover c,d,g,a,am,dm that sound nice.
It would also seem that loops could be used for user tracks as well, copyright permitting, with all the new features in 2014.
Yes, no, maybe?
Wyndham
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Add-ons and UserTracks for Band-in-a-Box
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,919
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,919 |
Some loops transpose better than others. Loop content has a lot to do with it. A one measure Acidized loop containing one whole note (4 beats) will generally sound better transposed than a one measure loop containing four notes (1 note per beat).
Professionals with trained ears can detect a half semitone shift. These are the same people that practice their ear training by identifying which control of a 30 band equalizer was moved by half a db. Most people can tolorate two semitones without hearing artifacts too much.
Context also matters. You can most likely shift a background track somewhat buried in the mix more than a lead or soloist. There is a better chance of noticing four or eight measures shifted than one note in eight measures.
See the discussion about why the UserTracks template suggests using three chords C, E and G.
Last edited by JimFogle; 12/12/13 02:27 PM. Reason: added last comment
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Add-ons and UserTracks for Band-in-a-Box
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
I'll get to start playing w/2014 this weekend. I'm sure a lot of things will become readily apparent when i get into all this.
Thanks Wyndham
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Add-ons and UserTracks for Band-in-a-Box
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 65
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 65 |
Wyndham,
I had some old loop libraries that I haven't used much since I've had BIAB. I've started to play around with an old Bass loop library. The library has several "song sets" recorded at different tempos. Within each song set folder is the same few loop patterns recorded in 4 different keys (Bb, Db, E and G). I used to drop loops into SONAR 8.5 and I had to manually edit the loops as per chord changes of the song. Needless to say, I stopped messing with instrument loops because of the tedious nature of micro-editing each measure or each beat of a measure.
Since I've upgraded to BIAB 2014, I have converted 10 of the bass song sets. Boy, does the User tracks feature work great! I tried both a single file that contains all the loops in each key and separate files and songs in each of the different keys. I still need to understand the structure of User tracks. I've also tried to structure user track variations to the template BIAB song. I make my audio track exactly like my BIAB song. I'm not sure if the User tracks share a similarity to how a custom real drums track works.
For example, I will create a BIAB song with a 4 bar intro-8 bar verse-8 bar verse-8 bar chorus-8 bar chorus-(plus 2 verses and 2 chorus for each key). I then put a tied whole note over 2 measures for the ending. I have a fill at the end of each song section (intro, verse, chorus). I also have a slightly different pattern for each song section.
My questions are:
1. If I create a new song from my user track, will my new song play my fill on the last measure of a song section, regardless of length? For example, I recorded an 8 bar song template (fill on the 8th measure)but my new song uses 4 measure sections(fill on the 4th measure).
2. Does any new song I create use the special patterns I've created especially for A song sections and B song sections or does BIAB randomly pick my loops?
3. Does BIAB recognize my special 4 bar intro from my template and does it now use that pattern for any new 4 bar intro I create?
4. I have other loops that have special properties such as 1 note per quarter note in a measure. If I create a song template for user tracks that contain special 8th or 16th pushes, or a chord on every quarter note beat, will BIAB utilize those special "patterns" when I create a new song with my user track?
I have went through the song templates and some of this is covered. The main things I get from the User track song templates is how to put in all the different chord variations and the special inversion (C/G bass) chords.
I would like to see a special User tracks loop import feature in a future BIAB that works similar to the "ABABC" feature that you could easily define a loop wave file for song sections. You would also define each loop duration. It may also work like the DAW feature in reverse. You would create a BIAB song and drag loops into specific measures, instead of importing a complete audio file into your template BIAB song.
Sorry for the long post.
Rodm
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Add-ons and UserTracks for Band-in-a-Box
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
I have sonar 8.5 as well and soon to upgrade to x3 studio, which has melodyne essentials, which might come in handy for some of the loops as well.
I may be overly excited about 2014 but it looks open ended as far as what I can envision.
I'm thinking that the playing of the fill part might be to create a user track called "fill" then at the bar select a part marker that plays that user track.
Just guessing, I just have to get some time to learn all of this.
Wyndham
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,315
Posts790,874
Members39,856
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean