Thanks Bob for adding to my lovely little threat here Wow lol. Yeah I was a little irked. But my disturbance has past. About these the izotope plugin suite called Studio. Now it is just 399. And I just got myself some top notch plugins. I am sure RealBand might have something good but not what these do. There is a preset for Voice Overs also. I have been into voice work. My own projects mostly. And there is something that takes out the breath in the silence. Sounding very natural. That alone is worth a hundred dollars to me to get some voice over work later or use it for my own projects. I will get some ideas. Many great presets for vocals. This is a vocal production suite. It is incredible. Sure I my middle name is preset so what? Sly Preset Ruby. I love it. These plugins will make RealBand wonderful for me. It will take my vocals to a higher level. This company iZotope just got an Emmy Award for there audio fixing software RX3. What they do things right. I want to find the thread where I first heard the name iZotope when talkning plugins. It was yesterday. And all it took was about 3 hours and talking to John to confirm it all works in BiaB then to place my Holiday priced 399 deal. I just put it on my introductory ZERO percent interest American Express. I paid off my Audiophile BiaB so why not go for the Gold here. Could I have went without this wonderful Voice Production Suite? Maybe. But John isn't going without it. So why not Sly Ruby? lol. Sure paint me up as the little redheaded stepchild newbie all day long. Do it for many more months. Maybe years. Call Sly a newbie that is still wet behind the ears. And maybe I will be into presets for some time. Maybe I won't hear the difference in some setting changes at first because I just can't hear the difference. But when my final product comes out my vocals will just shine. My singing will fly to the moon. My Sinatra voice will be incredible. Wow people will say. What a tone. What a singer. Sly Ruby will hit the online digital Independent artist album scene. I will have many fans. Could be 500 fans or maybe 5000 fans. Could be 5 fans all I care. But now with my great new suite and all the presets that puts me up with the pros!! John and I are going places!!! WOW and all the rest that get in on this deal. I hit a gold mine here with Band in a Box, RealBand, and my Vocal Production Suite by iZotope. 2014 will be a good year. I will study hard to get out of the newbie status. But as much as you love to call people newbies I doubt if I will be anything but a newbie for many years to come. Are you a trained engineer or something? With years of background? Maybe you get a little upset because of how someone like me that hasn't been a recording engineer and well trained can hit a few presets and manage to come out with a product that sounds very nice. Though we will see. I have a lot of work to do. My albums might be as shabby as can be. But I know I will write some good songs. Come out with a product that is pretty good. Better than many. Time will tell. This is all just for my entertainment. I don't have any plans on being rich and famous. It is all a great hobby. What a discovery for me. I am just building on from BiaB. Thanks BiaB!! WOWOWOWW. Band in a Box University begins for me soon. First stage...Newbie finding his way. Though forever Sly is Jazzmammal's Newb!! even if I learn a few things I will always be a newbie lol. I doubt I will ever prove myself to you. Hey at least go check out my album cover on www.Frychester.com and SlyRuby.com...is this ok to put addresses on our posts? I make no money from it. It is just logo and an image of a potential album cover. My projects. I will have to find it. Ok no hard feelings. Don't mind all the rattling. Hey Jazzmammal. Be sure to give some links to your projects. You must be a top notch engineer and producer. Possibly musician. I am ready to critique your work. If you give me no links to your work I guess you don't want me to critique it lol. I might put you in a newbie class for your production of a song that just won't make a grammy anytime soon. But maybe a B Movie. And believe me a B movie is a great achievment. I would love to get some songs on a B movie. Some independent film someday. I will look into that later after I produce a couple albums of original songs.