I listened to your Christmas tune. Sounded good. Did you produce that in BiaB? Most of it? Then you took it to Sonar? Are those Envelopes you are talking about in BiaB or Sonar? I am getting a free Sonar version soon with my new Audio interface. I will see how that is. I should just take it slow and not get into the hype of these big time high tech DAW's. When I probably will be fine for a long time with the Limited version. I will see what happens. For now I want to focus on BaiB. Learn the fundamentals so I can accomplish a few things. Build up some confidence and enjoy creating a few good songs in it. I am interested in these envelopes. I think you are saying they are in Sonar.