|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
I know tons of people have recorded and messed with this tune but.... I've got very fussy ears.  All I would like are bass and drums, that's it, nothing else. As close to the original sound as possible. Right now I've got: Direfast 80's RockCountry Tempo 145 Bass: 521 Elec Pop synco even 136 Drums: RockHardEven8^2 Brushes HiHat (default for song) I don't have a ton of real styles for bass and drums but I would splurge some extra bucks *IF* I could get the authentic sound I'm looking for. What am I looking for? The authentic sound. Right now, the drums aren't tight, the back beat lingers instead of being real crisp. The bass would be nicer if I could edit notes and add riffs etc. And if I could make it crisper. All suggestions are welcome.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926 |
Solutions exist within the PG universe. You could:
1. Look for another Drum Style in BIAB/RB. There's probably something there closer. All it takes is time for the search.
2. Make a Style yourself. I don't know how, only that it's doable. Search the forums for instructions.
3. Have user make a Style for you per the User-to-User forums.
Outside of that, the suggestions from the previous post are good. Somebody has probably taken the time to do a pretty good MIDI transcription. Searching for MIDI files is harder than it used to be, but still doable.
HTH,
R.
"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 99
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 99 |
http://youtu.be/xf-MZ1B37L0The link above shows how to make a backing track. It uses that very song as an example. I think it gets pretty close. Give it a try and see if it helps. I think the drum choice is pretty good. Good luck and let us know what you come up with. Marty
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,541
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,541 |
Hi, you also could try "Rock Dire", wich is a RD based on that particular song: http://realdrumsforbiab.com/singlerealdrums/country-realdrums/
Last edited by Cerio; 04/22/14 04:01 AM.
Latest BIAB version, latest build.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
ZZLITROK.STY. Light Rock Style All MIDI. Quintet. [ RealStyle sub=_PBALADM.STY Med PopBal w Dreamy ElGt (85 RS)] M1 Standard Drum Kit, [RD Sub: ROCKLITEEVEN8: a: ROCKLITEEVEN8b: ROCKLITEEVEN8 :] M36: Fretless Elec. Bass M5: Electric Piano M28: Clean Electric Guit M49: Strings _PBALADM.STY. Med PopBal w Dreamy ElGt (85 RS) All RealTracks. Quintet. RD: NASHVILLEEVEN8^5-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride :Brian Fullen RT518: Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 085 , Dow Tomlin RT365: Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 085 , Jason Roller RT362: Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 085 , Tony King RT542: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Dreamy Ev 085 , Darin Favorite Maybe   
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 280
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 280 |
I'm almost certain one of the learning BIAB Videos, probably one about creating custom styles, this very song was used as an example.
Can somebody confirm/deny this?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 174
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 174 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
Thanks Solidrock, I will look into midi too.
It may actually come closer to the sound than audio, which I thought instinctively would be better.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
1. Look for another Drum Style in BIAB/RB. There's probably something there closer. All it takes is time for the search.
2. Make a Style yourself. I don't know how, only that it's doable. Search the forums for instructions.
3. Have user make a Style for you per the User-to-User forums.
... Searching for MIDI files is harder than it used to be, but still doable.
Thanks Ryszard for your suggestions! I will look into them too.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
http://youtu.be/xf-MZ1B37L0The link above shows how to make a backing track. It uses that very song as an example. I think it gets pretty close. ... Good luck and let us know what you come up with. Marty Thanks Marty for your help. I found that youtube link when I did a search here a couple of days ago. Although he steps through the process nicely, the actual sound he comes up with in the end is quite far from the original to my picky ears.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827 |
Thanks Solidrock, I will look into midi too.
It may actually come closer to the sound than audio, which I thought instinctively would be better.
Yes sure, Sergio's www.realdrumsforbiab.com are great and a great price also ! he supplies the midi file with them so that you can get them to sound just how you want.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
I'm almost certain one of the learning BIAB Videos, probably one about creating custom styles, this very song was used as an example.
Can somebody confirm/deny this? It would be interesting to see this video.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
Thanks Soolan, that's the same video Marty gave the link for.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
Well I just had a big surprise awaiting me. It felt like deja vu when I made this post. I think I asked the same question many years ago here. The search engine only goes back four or five years so I don't think it would have found my original post. As I was moving files into my Mark Knopfler folder guess what was awaiting me there? Four or five different versions of Sultans of Swing! I had a good listen to them and one of them sounds quite decent. I don't think I'd be able to create one as good with BIAB so I think I will stick with it. The funny thing is that the file was created before BIAB started with audio, so the sounds are either midi-based or were played live. They sound like real audio to me. It's just bass, drums and electric guitar. It's an mp3 file so I can't do any re-mixing but as I said, the overall sound is quite acceptable to my fussy ears.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 673 |
I should add one more thing which I found quite amusing. Dire Straits have been featured in many versions of Sultans in live performance over the years. Quite a number of these can be found on Youtube. None of them however capture the original sound from their original studio recording of the tune. Not even close. Now I know that Mark's voice has changed dramatically over the years and that different drummers have been used too, but the *sound* of the drums and bass just aren't even close to that original recording. Reasons? Firstly, there are so many things you can do in a studio that you can't do in a 'live performance' situation and secondly, whoever produced that original session had way cool ears! It was done before digital recording had arrived too.
BIABguy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,298
Posts777,441
Members39,614
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean