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Fiddler Needs Help Selecting Desired Style(s) #249912 05/15/14 02:16 PM Off-Topic
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 49 Alabama U.S. perdido OP Enthusiast
OP perdido Enthusiast Joined: May 2014 Posts: 49 Alabama U.S.	I would greatly appreciate receiving information that could help me find style(s) that "fit" certain types of tunes, and in come cases, specific tunes. Hard to identify which style will fit a specific "old time" tune. Ethnic is also too broad a classification. I have been using the search feature in the Styles option. Not much luck. Maybe my imagination isn't good enough. Realtracks can be suggested or any of the styles that come with BIAB. I sometime find a style that sounds right, but when used with the tune, doesn't sound "right". Here are some styles I am searching for - 1. Ragtime - Red Apple Rag, Smith's Reel, Stone's Rag. 2. Polkas - Champagne Polka, Clarinet Polka, lots of Irish polkas. 3. Tunes like Angelina Baker and Cuckoos Nest. 4. Irish 6/8 jigs, hornpipes, reels. And as I mentioned earlier, Irish polkas. Hopefully, the rhythm track will include instruments played in Irish jams. Acoustic guitars tuned in the same manner as guitarists I hear in Irish jams. Nothing electric. I can mute them out with the mixer, but I would rather hear an instrument that is more appropriate for the music. I just bought a "bluegrass" realtrack. It is flexible and works with a lot of tunes I don't consider bluegrass. Like many fiddlers, I don't play a wide range of music. I just bought BIAB 2014 and enjoy using the mixer.

Re: Fiddler Needs Help Selecting Desired Style(s) perdido #249939 05/15/14 04:54 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,119 South Carolina C Charlie Fogle Veteran
Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,119 South Carolina	I too find it difficult to get the same phrasing I hear in my head from a single style or one generation of a BIAB instrument. There are several approaches I have learned and likely more that some of the more experienced folks here can suggest, but to name a few, Import your track into real band and generate additional tracks as well as use the create multi-riff feature which also works to generate a portion of a track as well as regenerate a complete track. If you have a DAW (digital work station) you can import several tracks and cut/splice individual pieces from the various tracks to create your own unique track. Hope these help Regards, Charlie BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: Fiddler Needs Help Selecting Desired Style(s) perdido #250095 05/17/14 08:05 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,258 Scottish Highlands furry Veteran
furry Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,258 Scottish Highlands	I've asked frequently for biab to improve on the 6/8 ( jigs ) tempo. The Irish / celtic / Cape Breton styles jigs are way too busy and need simplified. It's possible to use various styles for Irish music. Western Swing for example. You could use just piano, bass & drums. Dixieland piano would work beautifully with ragtime. Of course there's the jazz stride piano as well. For clarinet polka try using CHETCMP.STY. Change mandolin to Cape Breton reel and have the tempo around 90. One of the tricks I learned was that for a good Celtic / Scottish drum backing especially on reels/ polkas & 4/4 marches, try using tango real drums. Speeded up they're super for our needs ! Last edited by furry; 05/17/14 08:06 AM. Graham............ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKBPq93IQFTD3q-zBqxghbQ?view_as=subscriber

Re: Fiddler Needs Help Selecting Desired Style(s) furry #250225 05/18/14 02:13 PM Off-Topic
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 49 Alabama U.S. perdido OP Enthusiast
OP perdido Enthusiast Joined: May 2014 Posts: 49 Alabama U.S.	Thanks for the information. I have used BIAB for a long time, and just bought BIAB 2014 to replace BIAB 2007. I had an even older version. I wish PGMusic had an Irish rhythm Realset. In addition, the backup instruments would be those normally played in a set. I listen to the BIAB samples and they don't seem to be what I want. In the "onlinevideolessons" website, Ian Walsh plays one tune with a live rhythm guitar player. That guitar is tuned right and sounds great with a fiddle. Years ago, when I first bought BIAB,I downloaded a bunch of styles from a Canadian named Alfie's website. Over the years, I used his styles more than the styles that came with BIAB. His BIAB files taught me how to build decent sounding files for double jigs. Thanks for the Advice

Re: Fiddler Needs Help Selecting Desired Style(s) perdido #250229 05/18/14 02:30 PM Off-Topic
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furry Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,258 Scottish Highlands	The guy is probably Alf Warnock originally from Glasgow. I've used his styles a lot myself. Graham............ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKBPq93IQFTD3q-zBqxghbQ?view_as=subscriber

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