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BIAB Family: I have an Edirol SD-80 and also the Coyote VST. I was working today on a new chart and noticed that BOTH units were playing at the same time. I thought I was only on the Coyote, but then looked over at the SD-80 and saw it was operating also. Found out the SD-80 was playing some string parts and the Coyote was doing everything else. Ha! Question: How do I stop this from happening. I turned OFF the Coyote but it still continued to play (or something was supplying the audio). Ha!
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BIAB Family: I have an Edirol SD-80 and also the Coyote VST. I was working today on a new chart and noticed that BOTH units were playing at the same time. Johnny, that is not easily possible. Once the soft synth (Coyote forte) is evoked, it is not easy to send midi to an external hard synth. The only way I have seen that work is with the Paul Warren Redirect VST. Look closer, it should only be the soft synth or the external synth, not both.
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Yes, thank you! I got around it by booting from the Audiophile hard drive. It's really weird but when booting from c:bb, both synths play . . . at the same time!
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It's totally possible because it's happening. And there's a reason.
You need to understand, if you don't already know it, that midi is channel dependent.
All Midi data is transmitted with a channel designation on one of 16 unique midi channels. You will also find another option called OMNI... which is essentially telling a device to either transmit or receive in the OMNI mode which simply means it will listen on all 16 channels at once and play anything is sees on the data bus as opposed to only playing the data on a specific channel.
If you set up a synth to transmit or receive on a specific channel... lets say channel 5, it will only play data on the bus assigned to ch 5. It ignores everything else. If another device in the loop is set to omni, it will play ch 5 as well as everything else it sees.
This aspect is what makes midi so useful. Compare it to a computer network where the data is all on one wire/network but the individual computers on that network get only what they are supposed to get.
So if both midi synths are set to OMNI....and Omni is often a default setting so that the synth can be made to produce sound easily from any channel source, they're both going to see the signal, recognize it as OMNI and respond to it. Many software companies which make synths set them to default to omni mode so that the novices can easily get sound and get things rolling without having to learn about midi channels and such things. One step at a time so to speak. Once you get ready to step out to 2 synths then it's time to start learning about the channels.
The solution is to set up channels and assign each synth a unique channel number. I don;t use coyote. I use TTS which is a multi-timbral synth.....meaning it has the ability with one instance of TTS to play all 16 midi channels at once, using a unique patch on each channel. If Coyote is like that, I'm sure it's setup for Midi channels is similar to TTS. Look on my website under the recording page on "TTS advanced setup". I tell you how to set TTS up to play 3 different instruments at the same time without getting the data crossed up between them.
It's all in the midi channel assignments.
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Thank You, Guitarhacker!
Last night, I got back to everything sounding the way it should including the higher banks. As I said, it was because of the workaround . . . booting from the BIAB harddrive. Because of your eloquent a knowledgeable answer (that was wonderful), I think I'll just try and "re-install" everything onto the "c:" drive without loosing what I have by utilizing the BIAB harddrive. Time to get productive again. Thank you for your expertise!! The "Omni" thing is so provocative! JZ
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Hey, Johnny -
Not meaning to hijack this thread, but just wanted to let you know that I just listened on YouTube to your rendition of "My Tribute" (from way back). One of my favorite Gospel songs and played beautifully.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)
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Thank you very much, John.
Later on, when we didn't have the band intact anymore, I re-recorded that great song using Band In A Box. I think Peter's band was better and I liked the track even more! It was "wunnerful wunnerful"! JZ
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