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changing the piano instrument from acoustic to electric piano on a song and saving using the Save With Patches & Harmonies;
closing the song and when I reopen the song the piano has changed back to acoustic piano
can't figure out why my song won't save the changed instrument patch...
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Bobbol,
What version of BIAB do you have?
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newest PC ver; can't find it on the screen but I've only had it maybe 6 wks (been using the Mac ver for a couple yrs tho)
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bobbol,
If you have a look under the "Help" menu and then select "About Band In A Box", you'll see something like "Version 2014 (384)".
The '384' indicates what update is installed. The latest update is 384 and, before doing anything else, it would be wise to check that this is installed. If not, follow the Support link at the top of the webpage to download it and then install it.
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changing the piano instrument from acoustic to electric piano on a song and saving using the Save With Patches & Harmonies;
closing the song and when I reopen the song the piano has changed back to acoustic piano
... That would be a good example of a CC command embedded in you midi file. This is typical if you are using a midi track imported from an external midi file and someone wanted to be sure it played the way they intended it to. Use the event editor to see if a CC is present.
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Noel96: installed bld 384 - instrument changes still not saving; I now see that volume changes are not saving either
Jazzmandan: I'll look for that event editor and see if that help
thanks all for your assist!
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issues are still instrument changes don't save and neither do volume changes;
I'm an intermediate MIDI user and I've been poking around some of the MIDI without success; but thinking that there is something more fundamentally wrong here
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Upload the file and we can check it out.
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be happy to upload but not seeing how to attach a music file; the file manager I found in post options said I could only upload image files when I tried to attach a BIB file
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Hi bobol,
If you click on my nickname (Noel96) to the left of this text and then select "View Profile", you'll find an email address that you can send the file to. I agree with Dan. It would be good to try out the file.
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Noel
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be happy to upload but not seeing how to attach a music file; the file manager I found in post options said I could only upload image files when I tried to attach a BIB file This is why everyone needs a free dropbox account. Just place the file there and then insert a link here.
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If you open a midi file in BB, you first need to open the file with the big green sequencer button. The sequencer window then displays all the midi channels, allowing you to make edits- change patches, re-channel, etc.
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Hi again, Bob. Thank you for sending the file over. It has given me some ideas. When I opened the file, in the Style Information window, I saw ...  In the Mixer window, the above style opens the instruments shown below. Notice that the Bass and the Piano tracks have yellow text while the Drum track has green text. This indicates that the Piano and Bass tracks contain MIDI instruments while the Drum track is Realdrums.  What I suspect you are seeing in the Style Window is shown in the image below. Notice the slightly different name (_BOSSAP. STY as opposed to BOSSA2.STY). Also notice that the name begins with an underscore. This underscore indicates that the style is a Realtstyle and contains all Realtrack instruments.  This is confirmed when looking at the Mixer window since all the instrument text is green in colour.  Before I continue with the post, could you please double check and let me know which style file loads with your song? That is, is it the MIDI-based one or the Realtracks-based one? Regards, Noel
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the non-underscore one, so BOSSA2.STY
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bass & Pno is yellow, drums is green
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Hi Bob, That's confused me because I felt sure that the option "Auto-replace MIDI styles with Realtrack styles ..." was engaged. I was wrong. If you see Bass and Piano in yellow, it means that MIDI styles are loading and not being replaced by Realstyles. With your song file, changes to the patches, panning and volume all save fine for me when I tested it. What I'd try is ... 1. Save the file with a new name and see if that helps. If that doesn't work ... 2. Under "Opt", reset to factory settings (choose the upper option and you won't need to re-do the soundcard settings). NOTE: Once you return to factory settings, the option "Auto-replace MIDI styles with Realtrack styles ..." will be re-engaged and this will prevent loading MIDI styles. To deactivate the "Auto-replace" option, follow the 1, 2, 3 on the image below.  Regards, Noel
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With your song file, changes to the patches, panning and volume all save fine for me when I tested it.
....Under "Opt", reset to factory settings (choose the upper option and you won't need to re-do the soundcard settings). That is why we encourage folks to upload a problem file. It can be the quickest path to this conclusion.
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IMPORTANT UPDATE
having heard nothing useful from support for about a week (yes that is a whine about the support we get or don't get from PG) today I noticed:
** Opt/Return to Factory Settings **
and that was the fix! now when I change volumes and instruments and save the file, the re-opened file has saved the settings
YAWHOO
now maybe pushes will work again but one thing at a time
(special thx to Noel96 - no worries Mate! - for the response - even tho his ideas were not a fix for my particular problem I learned a heck of a lot about RealDrums vs MIDI!!)
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IMPORTANT UPDATE
having heard nothing useful from support for about a week today I noticed:
** Opt/Return to Factory Settings **
and that was the fix! Glad you found the fix. Did you try to call support on the phone? I find they always answer during business hours. But I do admit the user forum will generally provide a quick answer. The "RTFS" is very often the first thing to do when things get strange. And regarding Noel, yes he is a treasure.
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Hey Noel
really appreciate your help; I will make good notes of your ideas (looks like I discovered the "back to factory settings" a couple hrs after you put up your post but before I saw it! great minds and all that...
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