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I created a song in BiaB with all RealTracks and RealDrums, plays fine. When I open the file in RealBand, it shows me the RealDrums track in the Comments window, but when the file finishes importing the drums are not there. They ARE pointed to the proper directory - default bb\Drums. Drum track is: JazzBrushesSticks#1: a: JazzBrushesSticks#1b: JazzBrushesSticks#1 Additional odd info: every time I start RealBand it tells me it crashed, and do I wish to open defaults. Plus it displays dialog links to http://www.pgmusic.com/uac.htm. - twice. I appear to have the latest version - 2014 (7). Just to add to the issue, other tracks I have tried render the RealDrums tracks fine. And the style IS in the directory expected and plays in BiaB... Any ideas? Have I missed a setting somewhere (AFAIK, all defaulted...)
Last edited by The Soundsmith; 10/18/14 12:25 PM.
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Just click on the drum track then up on the Generate Button > Generate Track - Real Drums (second from the bottom)
It does this sometimes if you have Also Generate RealCharts checked.
User Account Control I find easy if you turn it off when using Realband as there are many other exe files it uses that set the UAC off.
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"Just click on the drum track." I do not HAVE a drum track. I can click on the Song Settings->Choose RD, but even when I select a drum track, it is not created. ???
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Sorry I thought it put the name but not the track, that's another bug I'm thinking of.
can you just go to the Generate Button > Select and Generate RealDrums (or Ctrl+G), if you click on the Style Name (to the left of the Song Settings Button) in will open the Style Picker and it will show you the Drum name for whatever style you were using in BB if the drums haven't generated.
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David, With an mgu/sgu file that has Realdrums, Realband will generate a separate "Realdrums" track as well as keeping an empty "Drums" track. I've highlighted both these with yellow rectangles on the image below.  Do you get both of these tracks? Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
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Also ... Piggybacking on what Solidrock has said, try this ... 1. Right-click on some track that has black writing and "Untitled" in its name - as labelled #1 on the image below. (A track with black writing is a non-BB track. I've selected track 10 as shown in the image.)  2. Use the "Scroll arrow" at the bottom of the pop-up menu (#2) to scroll through and find "Select and Generate Realdrums" (#3). If you need to scroll in the opposite direction, there's a scroll arrowhead at the top of the pop-up menu. 3. Pick the Realdrums and then "OK". Generation of the track should happen automatically. Hope this helps, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
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OK, I tried Generate RealDrums (and then had to retry after selecting an empty AUDIO track...) and it worked great, I even get the count-off, which my other imports omit.
For reference, here is the list of what showed up:
****** Song Summary - (screen while loading) *************
Title: Hey There
File:Hey There-stix.SGU
Key=Eb , Tempo 112, Length (m:s)=5:38
No intro. 154 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 154. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Style is _J140_JA.STY (Herbie Jazz Quartet (140 RS))
RealTracks in song: ~770:Bass, Acoustic, Jazz Sw 110 (B:walking)
RealTracks in style: ~~771:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz Sw 110
RealTracks in style: ~~1099:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm JazzSwingFreeComp Sw 110
RealTracks in style: ~~490:Sax, Alto, Jazz Ballad Sw 085
RealDrums in Song: JazzRideLewis^05-a:Ride and Hihat , b:SSTmRd
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AFTER LOADING, this is the result: NOTE that the MIDI tracks do not sound, despite the "P" button being lit. May I not have it set up correctly? Coyote is default...
Tracks - MIDI - label and actual loaded patch
RC770 Bass - Acous bass
RC771 Piano - Acou grand
RC1099 Guitar - Acou Grand Piano
RC490 Strings - Acou Guitar nylon
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Empty Tracks:
BB Strings
BB melody
BB Soloist
BB Audio
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THEN:
BB RealBass 770 audio track
BB RealPiano 771 acou, audio, which I will not use
BB RealGuitar 1099 Guitar Elec
BB RealStrings 490 - Sax Alto, which I will not use.
Then tracks 13 to 48 Untitled
no drum MENTION...
Any way, at this point, i can make it work, so thanks greatly for the help.
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Yes that's all good.
The:
RC770 Bass - Acous bass
RC771 Piano - Acou grand
RC1099 Guitar - Acou Grand Piano
RC490 Strings - Acou Guitar nylon,
are all the RealCharts they have the volume turned down by default, if you double click on them the notation window for that RealTrack will come up. You can also use them for Layering eg: if you set one to a synth or other VSTi Instrument so they play with the RealTrack, you can have a Sax play along with a Guitar or alternate.
Did you try and uncheck "Also Generate RealChart" from the Ctrl+G menu and see if the Drums Generate by themselves ?
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David,
I don't know if this observation will help you or not. The style you selected is a RealStyle which means it's not going to populate the instrument tracks which are the first eight tracks. The eight instrument tracks are reserved for midi information imported from all midi, or midi/RealTracks hybrid styles. RealStyles do not have any midi patterns to generate any midi information.
Even if midi instruments are listed in the style, if the instrument has no midi patterns to work with, nothing gets generated.
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Solidrock, I changed the RealChart option as you suggested, and it appears to have solved my issue. Great suggestion, thanks.
Jim, I DO have midi data in the tracks, apparently, though I have not tried to edit them. And didn't really want them, it's just a curiosity. They appear to have data and to be play-enabled, but muted (the track is not.)
I don't actually care, I don't need or want them.
Thanks to you both.
Last edited by The Soundsmith; 10/23/14 12:29 PM.
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