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When I write a chord change on beat 3 of a bar (e.g. C/ /G/ /), the solo doesn´t follow this change. It stays at the "C" of the first beat. Under some conditions this sounds quite OK, but sometime you want to have this change of the soloist in the middle of the bar.
I suspect (and hope) that there is only something wrong with my preferences. I´ve already tried to return to the factory settings, but without success.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
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Hi smallchamer, The notes the Soloist plays is determined by the chords. If the chords were changed after the soloist was generated, it's necessary to regenerate the track for the new chords to be interpreted. One thing to watch for is if you are referring to a Realtrack soloist, and it's loaded on the Soloist track, this soloist will automatically freeze when the song is changed (this is provided you have a recent version of BIAB). You will see if the track is frozen by an asterisk beside the tracks name. See the image below where the Melody track is frozen and the others are not.  To unfreeze the track, simply right-click on the track name and select "Unfreeze" from the pop-up menu. When the track is unfrozen, it's necessary to regenerate the track. Hope this helps, Noel
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Hi Noel,
many thanks for the quick reply.
Unfortunately this is not the solution.
My problem happens even if I regenerate. And sometimes I also put a soloist on a "normal" track (e.g. Piano, Guitar, Strings...)with the same weird result.
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Another thought that springs to mind ...
Do you set the key for your songs? I've found that the Soloists are sometimes sensitive to the key setting.
Also, what version of BIAB do you have?
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Hi Noel,
I always set the key for my songs.
My BiaB is the latest version.
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Is this a way uptempo song?
Can you tell us more so we can test this? Give us the song tempo, song key, style used, and the name/number of the RealTrack soloist.
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SC,
In addition to Matt's thoughts, is this song in 2/4 by any chance?
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If you try RB you can Generate anywhere you like and as many different solo tracks you like, and also have MultiRiffs.
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Thanks Matt, Noel and Solidrock
Right now I´m not at my music-computer. I will post the info tomorrow.
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The song is based on CCR´s "Door To Door"
Key is Ab
Tempo is 130 BPM
Style is _TBLZSHB.STY
Chord changes are /:Ab/B/Db/Db Ab:/
and in the fourth bar Brent Mason stays on Db the whole bar instead of changing to Ab at beat 3
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SC,
Here's something for you to try ...
I loaded in the style you mentioned above and set BIAB for 8-bars. I then entered C F | C F | C F | G C|, etc., to fill the 8 bars with 2 chords per bar (one chord on beat 1 and one on beat 3). I then generated the backing.
For the most part, the generation sounded fine. This particular soloist (RT 1586) is a very busy one and it sounds like Brent recorded phrases that work for 1-bar, 2-bar (and greater) generations. I suspect that the nature of these solos, for this particular RT, restricts their use for 1/2-bars. That being said, though, every once in a while, a 1/2-bar generation occurred. Mostly, though, the generations sounded like BIAB chose phrases that worked for both chords within the bar.
I'll be interested in what Matt and Solidrock say but, it may well be, that this particular soloist Realtrack has limitations and works best when there is a minimum of 1 chord per bar.
In Realband, it would be possible to generate part of a bar and to see if this helps achieve what you want.
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Disclaimer: I did not try this (currently not at a BIAB computer), but what would happen if you made that one measure into two measures of two beats each, using F5?
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Hi Solidrock,
no I´m not on RB. My main DAW is CUBASE 7.5 and I mainly use some of the BiaB files to be copied into Cubase.
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Hi Matt,
do you mean to use two 2/4 measures instead of on 4/4 bar?
I´ll try that out tonight and let you know.
BTW OT: while I´m writing this I have a question to the native speakers (I´m not)over here. What´s the difference between "measure" and "bar"?
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In RB you can just highlight that part and regenerate it or choose from the right click Menu MultiRiff, this will give you 7 Riffs to choose from or All on other tracks, or choose MultiRiff again for more choices.
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SC -
A measure is a group of notes surrounded by bar lines, defined by the time signature.
A bar is where you get your favorite adult drink.
Just kidding...the two are generally used interchangeably. Technically, a bar is the line that separates those groups of notes, so when you start at bar 10, you are starting at the 10th vertical line. But today, both mean the same thing.
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Thanks John,
... you definitely hit my sense of humor.
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SC, yes.
And I've actually had a drink with John, and you are correct!
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