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Hi,

Regarding the tutorial "Entering Chords in Band In A Box"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RZqDJjeoBU

In the discussion about "pushes" in this tutorial the narrator's instruction for an eighth note push is to enter a caret before the root of the chord. For a sixteenth, enter two carets. What you see for an eighth note push in the chord chart is something like this ^C7
and for a sixteenth note push you will see ^^C7. I have a few questions about this beginning tutorial. When I follow these instructions the eighth note push appears according to the video. When I enter two carets for a 16th note push I get a caret and a triangle. (see the yellow arrows in the screen shot below) The playback sounds like it is supposed to in a non-swing style, but I am just wondering why the triangle and not two carets? Curiosity....

Secondly, the narrator states that when entering the caret symbol one only needs to press the 6 key and not shift + the 6 key. If I do not use the shift key and enter (no shift) + 6...6...+ F (chord root) then I get an "A7b9" chord. (see blue arrow) I thought perhaps because I was working on a laptop that this was the problem but I also tried it on my desktop and the same issue resulted. Do I need to change a setting somewhere?

Anybody know about either of these issues?

Thanks!
Dan




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Hi Dan,

I get two carets for the 16th push. Have you installed the latest update for your version of BIAB? Also what version do you have?

Regarding the keyboard strokes, I just tried them out and you are correct. This might be a bug. I'd drop a quick email to support@pgmusic.com and ask them.

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Regarding the little triangle with the caret, you probably are using the Big Band font in Preferences, Display. You should report this to PG Music Support, but a workaround is to select another font.

And I concur, I have to use the Shift key with the 6 to get the carret symbol.


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Thanks, I check it out tomorrow.
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Noel, Matt

Sorry for such a long delay getting back to you both.

As it turns out the different characters that appear when using a single caret or a double caret to implement a push are due to the font choice. "Big Band" font is the programs default. I did some experimenting with other fonts but the only font that will produce exactly what is displayed in the tutorial is PG's proprietary font "PG Text".

Noel, I did upgrade today.

Thanks guys,
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Exactly. The big band font is relatively new. The PG font was the default for decades and I still tend to use that. Also, some fonts do not show the pushes at all, which may be the way you want it on a printout. The point is, you have choices.


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Thanks, Matt. I never knew that! That's today's BIAB lesson for me smile I use PG Text, too, which is why I didn't see the triangle.

Dan, thank you for posting the solution. It's always good to know what work.

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