|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Going a little Country here with our new best friend, Mr. Brian Nolf. Just a rough mix. https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/track/big-timeBig Time ©2014 Robert Randall Burke/BMI Miller's Pond Friday night Pretty girl Feelin' right She says no But she might Just come around. Countin' stars from a pickup bed Lonestar runnin' through my head Thinkin' bout just what she said Before I hit the ground. Sweet magnolia fills the air It's getting' late but I don't care Don't gotta be nowhere But right down here Gonna have a big time, big time, big time in this small town tonight. Thinkin' bout dippin' in Maybe take a little swim Lord knows it ain't no sin And it feels so right No one here but you and me We'll never be so wild and free Let's make a memory In the pale moonlight It don't matter What other people say When you're young and in love And livin' for today We're gonna have A big time in this small town tonight.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052 |
I think it's a hit!! Simple, concise lines with BIG TIME impact, catchy melody, and excellent delivery of the song on all fronts. Is the other name you mentioned the singer? Excellent vocals. Is this a co-write or all you? It sounds to me like there's not much work to do on the mix. If I were a publisher, I'd be pulling out a contract. Great work!! Take care. Greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,893
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,893 |
I agree with Greg all the way on this. This song is top notch at every level.
Charlie
BIAB 2026:RB 2026, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335 |
Bob, Top notch commercial potential . A great write. Nice progression in the chorus. Mix is solid. And the vocals are fantastic. Where did you get him? So good to see you writing and posting. Just an excellent job on all fronts. Tom
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,497 |
Hi, Bob !:))
This is a BIG TIME HIT !:))
Absolutely super, must be
one of your best if not
the best !!!!!:))
I enjoyed this tune and
the performance truly much
Cheers
Dani
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
+1 !
Bob, this is a totally pro sounding production! I'm in awe... every single aspect of the song screams quality!
Have you played this live yet? I'm curious to hear how it goes over with audiences. Do they get up and dance? Hoot and holler at the end? Lots of applause? I can say with certainty that if I were in the audience, I would be shaking your hand as soon as you took a break! Totally fun and enjoyable number, full of things that a lot of people could identify with.
You are indeed the consummate music pro!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016 |
One listen.... without a doubt the best I've heard from you. I'm curious if this is a co-write as well....
This is also one of the more commercially viable songs I've heard on this forum. There's lots of good songs, but a good song isn't necessarily equivalent to a commercial song.
My advice for this one is brush up the mix, you said it's a rough mix and I agree... make it sparkle.....use some basic but nice production, don't overdo it (less is more, just let the song speak for itself) .... then get this into the hands of some folks in Nashville who can help you..... That last part is the hardest part.
Excellent writing job.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 16,318
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 16,318 |
It definitely has the feel of what I hear
when I check in on contemporary
country radio. And lyrically it exceeds
by far what I typically hear. Definitely,
and interesting and enjoyable surprise
from you.
J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! A few of our videos are here on our website: https://www.janiceandbud.com/our-music.html
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888 |
Hi Bob, Top notch commercial potential . A great write. Nice progression in the chorus. Mix is solid. And the vocals are fantastic. Where did you get him? +1 from me. Guenter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 120
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 120 |
I have to agree with everyone else who's already posted....This is a top notch production and finely written song.
Just one question?....why isn't there a lead or solo part in this country? I think if it were to go commercial...it would need that...
Horst Hartung Windows 10 - RealBand 2020:Build(3); Xtra Styles PAKs 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8; 64 bit Intel Xeon CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz; 4 TB HD; 550 GB SSD PCIe Drive, 16GB Memory. Behringer UFX1604 Digital Mixer. Music: https://soundcloud.com/horst_hartung
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016 |
I have to agree with everyone else who's already posted....This is a top notch production and finely written song.
Just one question?....why isn't there a lead or solo part in this country? I think if it were to go commercial...it would need that...
listening again..... Actually no. For demo's to Nashville the advice I got was "no one wants to hear your guitar playing.... just play the song".... As a guitarist I naturally want to put a sweet long solo in every song but I hold back on songs that I plan to pitch to publishers and artists. Now..... whatever the artist decides to do with it once they start recording is totally up to them and their producer...they will decide if the song gets a solo or not. Going back a bit.....Actually, the intro is a bit too long.... it should probably be edited to half that length..... for Nashville demo's 13 seconds is max.... this one goes 19.... I would edit it to start at the 9 second point... that gives a 10 sec intro. In and done with the chorus before 60 seconds and a real cool hook with the repeated Big Time.... total run time under 3 minutes..... what's not to like about this?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
I think it's a hit!! Simple, concise lines with BIG TIME impact, catchy melody, and excellent delivery of the song on all fronts. Is the other name you mentioned the singer? Excellent vocals. Is this a co-write or all you? It sounds to me like there's not much work to do on the mix. If I were a publisher, I'd be pulling out a contract. Great work!! Take care. Greg Greg- Thanks for the kind words. The singer is Brian Nolf, a demo singer from Nashville. He is extraordinary. The song is not a co-write. I'm guilty for the whole thing.  Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
I agree with Greg all the way on this. This song is top notch at every level.
Charlie Charlie - Thanks.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bob, Top notch commercial potential . A great write. Nice progression in the chorus. Mix is solid. And the vocals are fantastic. Where did you get him? So good to see you writing and posting. Just an excellent job on all fronts. Tom Tommy - Thanks. The singer is Brian Nolf. I found him through Demosinger.com. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Dani - Thanks.
Pat -
We haven't played it at all yet. I just finished it this week.
Regards,
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
J & B – Thanks for listening.
Guenter – Thanks
Horst – Thanks for the kind remarks. This is just a song demo, and as such, usually doesn't have a solo.
Regards,
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
I have to agree with everyone else who's already posted....This is a top notch production and finely written song.
Just one question?....why isn't there a lead or solo part in this country? I think if it were to go commercial...it would need that...
listening again..... Actually no. For demo's to Nashville the advice I got was "no one wants to hear your guitar playing.... just play the song".... As a guitarist I naturally want to put a sweet long solo in every song but I hold back on songs that I plan to pitch to publishers and artists. Now..... whatever the artist decides to do with it once they start recording is totally up to them and their producer...they will decide if the song gets a solo or not. Going back a bit.....Actually, the intro is a bit too long.... it should probably be edited to half that length..... for Nashville demo's 13 seconds is max.... this one goes 19.... I would edit it to start at the 9 second point... that gives a 10 sec intro. In and done with the chorus before 60 seconds and a real cool hook with the repeated Big Time.... total run time under 3 minutes..... what's not to like about this? Herb, Thanks for listening, but the song is being pitched as is. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 13,019
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 13,019 |
Bob, "It don't matter What other people say When you're young and in love And livin' for today" Words to live by.  You ol' romantic, you! A fun song. Your singer sounds like Bryan White. The chorus melody and harmonies are sweeeeeet. Cool hook line. "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." That's hard to get outta your head! "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." see?... fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,086
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,086 |
Terrific song Bob! And Brian really sells it.
I did miss a few more guitar RIFFS (not a solo) in there besides just the start and end but that in no way reflects on the song.
One of the best written country songs I've heard on here.
Love it.
Josie
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,708
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,708 |
Hi Bob ...
tghe key word has already been said ... commercial! And like Herb said, there are many terrific songs on the boards here ... but the commercial aspect isn't what all them are working for. Some just want to write a damned good song ... and they do ... but this one is about as commercial as anything I've heard on the boards in the almost-year we've been here.
Congrats on a great write and nice mic. You demo guy did you good. Whatever you paid him, you got more than your money's worth, I would speculate.
As soon as the vocal kicked in and we hears a couple of lines, Di and I looked at each other and said "If Nashville doesn't like this, their heads are far beyond where the sun doesn't shine!"
Standing "O" from the two of us .... still clapping!
Alan & Di
BIAB 2024 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win11*32GB DDR5*Rhyzen 9745x*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120* Acoustic/Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bob, "It don't matter What other people say When you're young and in love And livin' for today" Words to live by. You ol' romantic, you! A fun song. Your singer sounds like Bryan White. The chorus melody and harmonies are sweeeeeet. Cool hook line. "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." That's hard to get outta your head! "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." "Big Time, Big Time, Big Time..." see?... fj fj- Thanks. I really love Brian's voice. He's played with some top people - he was in Marty Stuart's band, and has worked with Pam Tillis, Dolly, and a bunch of others. He really brought the song to life. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Terrific song Bob! And Brian really sells it.
I did miss a few more guitar RIFFS (not a solo) in there besides just the start and end but that in no way reflects on the song.
One of the best written country songs I've heard on here.
Love it.
Josie Josie, Thanks for the kind words. I had intended to pepper some guitar fills in there, but I'm not as adept at BIAB/RB as some, and I finally gave up. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Hi Bob ...
tghe key word has already been said ... commercial! And like Herb said, there are many terrific songs on the boards here ... but the commercial aspect isn't what all them are working for. Some just want to write a damned good song ... and they do ... but this one is about as commercial as anything I've heard on the boards in the almost-year we've been here.
Congrats on a great write and nice mic. You demo guy did you good. Whatever you paid him, you got more than your money's worth, I would speculate.
As soon as the vocal kicked in and we hears a couple of lines, Di and I looked at each other and said "If Nashville doesn't like this, their heads are far beyond where the sun doesn't shine!"
Standing "O" from the two of us .... still clapping!
Alan & Di Alan & Di, Thanks for listening and the nice remarks. We're hoping it's commercial as well.  Getting a cut on an outside song is next to impossible, so we might have to go to town and start singing it on the streets. In the Springtime, of course! Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016 |
Herb,
Thanks for listening, but the song is being pitched as is.
Regards,
Bob
I wish you all the best with this... Great song.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079 |
Bob,
Who is playing the guitar at the beginning.
What a voice, Brian, and then the harmonies.
This sounds real good loudish!!
thoroughly enjoyed
Alyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Herb -
Thanks. It's making the rounds.
Alyn-
Thanks. Yeah, Brian is brilliant. The guitar in the intro is good Old Brent Mason.
Regards,
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Per several suggestions, I remixed this song this morning and added some fills. Nothing I can do about the intro unless I cut it really short.
Thanks to all for the suggestions to improve this.
Regards,
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,299
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,299 |
So I've been listening to a bunch of the user showcase songs and wanted to say I think this is a stand out. I get the thread is a few months old, but I don't feel it doesn't deserve praise just because of that! Great job all the way around. Of course there are some things that could be tweaked, but show me a song on here that isn't that way. Now for my question....what ever happened with this? Anything? I think there is some pretty good potential here! If you want critique, let me know. I don't like just throwing it out there unless asked for. All for good of course!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
So I've been listening to a bunch of the user showcase songs and wanted to say I think this is a stand out. I get the thread is a few months old, but I don't feel it doesn't deserve praise just because of that! Great job all the way around. Of course there are some things that could be tweaked, but show me a song on here that isn't that way. Now for my question....what ever happened with this? Anything? I think there is some pretty good potential here! If you want critique, let me know. I don't like just throwing it out there unless asked for. All for good of course! Thanks for the kind remarks. The song is making the rounds in Nashville in search of a publisher, and has received generally favorable reviews. It did make the “Ones To Watch” list in January on the N.S.A.I. “E.A.R.S' report, and I got a personal critique from Bart Herbison, the Executive Director of NSAI. I received a lot of valid suggestions, and am aware that it could be greatly improved, but I feel that as a simple song demo it is adequate. If nothing happens with the song, we will still be performing it on the 2015 90 dB Dive Bar World Tour, where it will be heard by tens of people. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,299
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,299 |
Wow! That's GREAT news! I am all around impressed by your writing. It's very similar to what I am trying to do. I'm excited to hopefully post a few things for the forum's review. Would you mind keeping us update when you hear anything? I am always curious the process AFTER the song is written as I am about the writing. Do you have any more explanation of the song itself? Whey you chose what you did to go here or there? Also, the lyric writing is pretty awesome, I must say! Your use of internal chime is truly first rate! Now... If nothing happens with the song, we will still be performing it on the 2015 90 dB Dive Bar World Tour, where it will be heard by tens of people. You've hear the expression lol/laugh out loud...I actually did! Thanks my friend!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 313
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 313 |
Hi Bob, Top notch commercial potential . A great write. Nice progression in the chorus. Mix is solid. And the vocals are fantastic. Where did you get him? +1 from me. Guenter What can I add??? This is so professional, catches on from the first notes! Just the right Mix, and then I hope it hits big time Fred
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Wow! That's GREAT news! I am all around impressed by your writing. It's very similar to what I am trying to do. I'm excited to hopefully post a few things for the forum's review. Would you mind keeping us update when you hear anything? I am always curious the process AFTER the song is written as I am about the writing. Do you have any more explanation of the song itself? Whey you chose what you did to go here or there? Also, the lyric writing is pretty awesome, I must say! Your use of internal chime is truly first rate! Now... If nothing happens with the song, we will still be performing it on the 2015 90 dB Dive Bar World Tour, where it will be heard by tens of people. You've hear the expression lol/laugh out loud...I actually did! Thanks my friend! Thanks for the kind words. If anybody picks the song up, I'll let you know. I will spare you the rejections. The song itself: I set out to write the most commercial piece of &^$! I could, and BIAB allowed me to approximate that.  After the song is written: You start pitching it to everybody with a pulse, have tons of people tell you how to re-write it, or pitch their songs to you, etc. Then, if you're lucky, someone contacts you and offers to sign the song, then sends you a contract that puts your attorney in hysterics of laughter. It's quite fun, actually. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Hi Bob, Top notch commercial potential . A great write. Nice progression in the chorus. Mix is solid. And the vocals are fantastic. Where did you get him? +1 from me. Guenter What can I add??? This is so professional, catches on from the first notes! Just the right Mix, and then I hope it hits big time Fred Fred - Thanks for the kind words and good wishes. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,719
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,719 |
Sounds so smooth Bob. Could listen to it anytime.
Hope it gets the attention it deserves. Cheers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Sounds so smooth Bob. Could listen to it anytime.
Hope it gets the attention it deserves. Cheers. Thanks for the kind remarks Richard. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016 |
After the song is written: You start pitching it to everybody with a pulse, have tons of people tell you how to re-write it, or pitch their songs to you, etc. Then, if you're lucky, someone contacts you and offers to sign the song, then sends you a contract that puts your attorney in hysterics of laughter. It's quite fun, actually. You left out the best part... after you sign the song..... you wait............then you wait some more....... I'd be curious to know what Bart said.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 03/13/15 01:26 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bart liked the song, but suggested some major changes. Like cutting the steel guitar and dobro. Problem is, there isn't any steel guitar or dobro on the recording.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,190
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,190 |
Great Song Bob, I love everything about this and the vocalist sure does the song justice. Great lyrics and good melody line, and the mix is good too.
I sure hope that somebody picks up on it for you.
Musiclover
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 11,016 |
Bart liked the song, but suggested some major changes. Like cutting the steel guitar and dobro. Problem is, there isn't any steel guitar or dobro on the recording. WOW.... I literally laughed out loud....I've always been suspicious of those so-called hit writers who work at NSAI and the other services offered in this business....and the advice they give.... one says up, the next one says down.....the next one says white, the next one says black.... You have to wonder sometimes did they even listen to the song. It's pretty obvious there's no dobro or steel in that. As you recall, the only comments I had was to add some polish and shorten the intro.... the song was mighty fine..... mighty fine. Bob....Was that a one on one mentor or a basic review? I did a one on one mentoring with RC Bannon on a song when he was the president out there.... We discussed 2 songs and he was telling me MAJOR changes and re-writes were needed on the first two.... structural stuff...lyrical stuff...... then with about 12 minutes remaining in the 1 on 1, I asked him to review one more song quickly. After he listened, unlike the first two, he appeared to really like the song and suggested a few changes.... the main one being get another singer who can "sell the song convincingly"... and so I did. Made a few of the other changes.... minor things that he suggested like cut the solo out and do a simple quick turnaround back to the chorus, and sent it back in. The only problem was....well, RC wasn't on the list of reviewers.... he did mentoring but not reviews. So it was a tossup.... I picked a country song reviewer and sent it in with some basic info on what RC had suggested and what I did.... I was expecting a decent review and perhaps a recommendation....at least a "ones to watch" posting..... nope... I'm glad I didn't make a bet on that.... because this new review tore that song a new one.... up one side and down the other....I've gotten better reviews from rough first drafts than I did from that polished up and re-worked song.... FYI the song in question I'm referring to is Come & Go (Rose Version) Kinda makes you just want to throw your hands up and pull your hair out from the pure frustration
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 03/13/15 07:34 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,057
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,057 |
Bob,
Well done. Very enjoyable. Great BGVs.
SD
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Great Song Bob, I love everything about this and the vocalist sure does the song justice. Great lyrics and good melody line, and the mix is good too.
I sure hope that somebody picks up on it for you.
Musiclover Thanks for the kind remarks. Appreciate it. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bart liked the song, but suggested some major changes. Like cutting the steel guitar and dobro. Problem is, there isn't any steel guitar or dobro on the recording. WOW.... I literally laughed out loud....I've always been suspicious of those so-called hit writers who work at NSAI and the other services offered in this business....and the advice they give.... one says up, the next one says down.....the next one says white, the next one says black.... You have to wonder sometimes did they even listen to the song. It's pretty obvious there's no dobro or steel in that. As you recall, the only comments I had was to add some polish and shorten the intro.... the song was mighty fine..... mighty fine. Bob....Was that a one on one mentor or a basic review? I did a one on one mentoring with RC Bannon on a song when he was the president out there.... We discussed 2 songs and he was telling me MAJOR changes and re-writes were needed on the first two.... structural stuff...lyrical stuff...... then with about 12 minutes remaining in the 1 on 1, I asked him to review one more song quickly. After he listened, unlike the first two, he appeared to really like the song and suggested a few changes.... the main one being get another singer who can "sell the song convincingly"... and so I did. Made a few of the other changes.... minor things that he suggested like cut the solo out and do a simple quick turnaround back to the chorus, and sent it back in. The only problem was....well, RC wasn't on the list of reviewers.... he did mentoring but not reviews. So it was a tossup.... I picked a country song reviewer and sent it in with some basic info on what RC had suggested and what I did.... I was expecting a decent review and perhaps a recommendation....at least a "ones to watch" posting..... nope... I'm glad I didn't make a bet on that.... because this new review tore that song a new one.... up one side and down the other....I've gotten better reviews from rough first drafts than I did from that polished up and re-worked song.... FYI the song in question I'm referring to is Come & Go (Rose Version) Kinda makes you just want to throw your hands up and pull your hair out from the pure frustration “Bob....Was that a one on one mentor or a basic review?” It was a response to my complaint about a horrible “Pitch To Publisher”, when the “publisher” (actually a gum-chewing, baseball cap-wearing, word-slurring, knuckle-dragging Millennial cretin with 0 credits to his name) had given the song short shrift. After my complaint, I got a response from Bart. Obviously, he either didn't listen to the song, or the underling who did the “critique” for him can't tell a Telecaster from a pedal steel. NSAI is not in the music business. They are in what I call the “Music Business Business”. It is what it is. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bob,
Well done. Very enjoyable. Great BGVs.
SD Thanks SD. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831 |
Well done! Love the chorus hook. And the mix and instruments are spot on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Well done! Love the chorus hook. And the mix and instruments are spot on. Lawrence, Thanks for listening and the kind words. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,371
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,371 |
Hi Bob.
I'm weighing in late as usual and of course it's all been said...
but for what it's worth I thought it was brilliant.
Plus what everyone else said.
ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Hi Bob.
I'm weighing in late as usual and of course it's all been said...
but for what it's worth I thought it was brilliant.
Plus what everyone else said.
ROG. Thanks Professor. Appreciate the listen. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079 |
Bob, Just thought I would comment again to this megalith type post Gonna have a big time, big time, big time in this small town tonight. The song is making the rounds in Nashville in search of a publisher, and has received generally favorable reviews. It did make the “Ones To Watch” list in January on the N.S.A.I. “E.A.R.S' report, and I got a personal critique from Bart Herbison, the Executive Director of NSAI.
I received a lot of valid suggestions, and am aware that it could be greatly improved, but I feel that as a simple song demo it is adequate.
If nothing happens with the song, we will still be performing it on the 2015 90 dB Dive Bar World Tour, where it will be heard by tens of people. grin Hmmmm Sounds just as good on the 2nd listen so maybe it is I that could borrow $ 73.78 USD ( at the current exchange rates) Good luck with the song Alyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Thanks Alyn. If I had $ 73.78 USD, we wouldn't be on the 2015 90 dB Dive Bar World Tour! We'd be in Key west getting legless.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079 |
We'd be in Key west getting legless. grin NOW that sounds a plan!! Alyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
We'd be in Key west getting legless. grin NOW that sounds a plan!! Alyn We'll be right here: http://sloppyjoes.com/
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 26 |
Bob, I'll try not to rehash what's already been said but won't make any promises. I've been away from the boards for a few weeks and then hear this as the first song coming back.. To put it mildly, I was gobsmacked. To understand how big of a statement that is, consider this: I've been a guitarist for well over 4 decades and have invested TONS of time and thousands of dollars on music gear. I've learned and play several styles fluently. As many excellent contributing members on the forum do, I recognize a strong production when the sound hits the ear canal. In other words, "When you've heard it all, it's hard to be this impressed with anything". Unless the piece really delivers the goods, of course. This song has it in spades. I enjoy listening to, and playing a tasteful guitar part based on the needs of a song as much as the next six-slinger. However, the songwriting, production and vocal performance on this number were so good that I didn't even MISS it. It really didn't matter. This is huge because I'm always zeroing in on everything that is going on (or not going on) musically speaking. I've listened to a good many Nashville demos back in the day and this tune is as good as any I've heard, then or now. You've done a really nice job at capturing a contemporary country feel to the song. Best wishes to you and your efforts pitching it.. I know as a seasoned musician, I was enjoying the whole vibe going on with it. I believe if it gets to the right artist, you have a great chance at getting a few more than tens of fans. David
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Bob, I'll try not to rehash what's already been said but won't make any promises. I've been away from the boards for a few weeks and then hear this as the first song coming back.. To put it mildly, I was gobsmacked. To understand how big of a statement that is, consider this: I've been a guitarist for well over 4 decades and have invested TONS of time and thousands of dollars on music gear. I've learned and play several styles fluently. As many excellent contributing members on the forum do, I recognize a strong production when the sound hits the ear canal. In other words, "When you've heard it all, it's hard to be this impressed with anything". Unless the piece really delivers the goods, of course. This song has it in spades. I enjoy listening to, and playing a tasteful guitar part based on the needs of a song as much as the next six-slinger. However, the songwriting, production and vocal performance on this number were so good that I didn't even MISS it. It really didn't matter. This is huge because I'm always zeroing in on everything that is going on (or not going on) musically speaking. I've listened to a good many Nashville demos back in the day and this tune is as good as any I've heard, then or now. You've done a really nice job at capturing a contemporary country feel to the song. Best wishes to you and your efforts pitching it.. I know as a seasoned musician, I was enjoying the whole vibe going on with it. I believe if it gets to the right artist, you have a great chance at getting a few more than tens of fans. David David, Thanks for the kind remarks and good wishes. I can take credit for the song, lyrics and arrangement - BUT: BIAB provided the players to bring it to life, and Brian Nolf (the singer) added the magic that only a seasoned pro can. Without those two entities, it would just be a little country folk song. The pitching continues apace. I pitched it to a lady in the frozen food aisle in the supermarket yesterday. She wasn't interested. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 26 |
I agree, Bob. Points well taken. The song is a prime example of what is possible with the current incarnation of BIAB and/or RT and a pro singer (and a quality ear for arrangement as well as mix).
Regards,
David
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Peter Gannon Talks Band-in-a-Box with zplane
zplane recently interviewed Peter Gannon, the founder and creator of Band-in-a-Box, about the software's early days, what sets it apart from AI, how zplane's audio algorithms are used in Band-in-a-Box, and more!
Special thanks to the team at zplane for their continued support.
Check out the full interview here: https://products.zplane.de/blog/peter-gannon-interview-pg-music
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
Holiday Weekend Hours
It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:
Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Regular hours resume Tuesday, May 19th!
Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
Don't wait - order today!
Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,603
Posts807,334
Members40,167
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean