|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Newbie
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8 |
Hopefully this will be simple to seasoned BIAB vets!
I have recently bought an M-Audio Oxygen 49 usb midi controller but when I tried to connect it to BIAB had a latency issue.
BIAB support suggested the following:
1. Install ASIO4ALL:
2. Install LoopBe1:
3i. To configure Band in a Box to use ASIO4ALL:
4. Change Audio Driver Type to ASIO, and select ASIO4ALL v2 as your driver
I`ve actioned these suggestions but nothing has changed, pretty much the same poor latency!
Surely this should be fairly straight forward, can anyone suggest a fix?
Thanks
Mike
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,804
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,804 |
Buy a decent external interface (fancy name for a sound card).
In other forums on recording and music, most folks who do this hobby seriously have invested in a good aftermarket interface/soundcard. BiaB works fine for me on MME drivers but not Real Band. And most certainly NOT my DAW software.
Everyone starts out by using the built in sound card in their computer. And that works OK for some things. When you start getting into more serious musical projects and especially when you get into midi and soft synths, you tend to run into problems. Latency appears as a delay in the music related mostly to MIDI but it can be related to other things as well.
Factory cards do not use the proper drivers to handle the musical load needed to get everything to the speakers in sync.
ASIO4ALL is a wrapper that attempts to fool the computer into thinking it's running ASIO, when in fact it's MME wrapped in a codec trying to pretend it's ASIO.
You can try increasing the buffers for audio and midi to see if that will help any. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't. I personally never had any success with buffers and wrappers.
Buy an interface that has the inputs and outputs you need..... most basic ones are 2 in 2 out.... stereo in other words and will work fine for most home hobby studio applications. Be sure it has a USB connection to the computer(as opposed to firewire because FW can be problematic with some chip sets) , audio preamps built in, the ability to supply phantom power for condenser mics, and most importantly, that it uses ASIO drivers. NO wrappers, NO codecs, just ASIO. Other drivers are allowed but it must support ASIO as the main driver.
Once you install that interface and set it up properly, it will function as you would expect it to do..... with very little latency in the sound. Every interface has latency, but as long as it's under 10 milliseconds...and that's considered marginal performance, you will never hear the delay in the audio.
My interface was that ahh haa moment.... the clouds cleared, the sun shone, and the birds sang..... well not exactly, but you get the picture.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8 |
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply.
Do you have any recommendations for a decent external interface?
Thanks
Mike
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,896
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,896 |
Just reinstalled my Midiman USB KeyStation 49 Mdi Controller Keyboard (ya, it is old...) With MME drivers in BIAB it has large latency, but when I chose the ASIO for my MAudio Audiophile 192 PCI card, it is quick as a blink.
I then tried ASIO4ALL v2, no sound at all. Seems the input port is "not connected".
Oh well, getting a good ASIO driver with hardware solves the problem.
BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8 |
Thanks for getting back to me.
It looks like I`ll go the /interface/ASIO route.
I first owned BIAB on floppy drive in the mid 90`s. I then had an early Roland 16T digital linked to Cubase. Having left the recording side for a few years whilst playing in a live band I return to find it a bit like learning `Chinese`! It is taking a huge amount of patience to get going again..........
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,840
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,840 |
If you are running ASIO4ALL on a laptop, you may find that the ports are mapped differently than for the MME driver. That's why you sometimes get no sound.
On my HP laptop, with MME, I just select the speakers and headphone port, which auto switches between the headphone jack and the internal speakers.
However, if I select ASIO4ALL, I have to explicitly select whether I want to use the headphone jack or the internal speakers (and by the way, they're not labeled that way... I had to figure it out by trial and error.)
Once I knew this, though, ASIO4ALL worked just fine. Changes had to be made on the advanced preferences screen. The simple screen just locked in to the first interface it found.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,057
Posts799,527
Members40,024
| |
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean