|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714 |
How about butchered covers - do they count?  Or the ones that I may have even broken over the years? LOL Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714 |
Great stuff here Donald!
Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
Danny, There is an interesting story about Bob Rivers driving to Canada to pick up a Yamaha keyboard to get an authentic sound on a backing track so he borrowed a Mini Van from a weed-smoking friend. Upon crossing the border and heading to Vancouver, BC, the K-9 unit was alerted by residual odors in the van so Bob was detained for several hours while a thorough inspection ensued, including removal of the headliner, door panels, spare tire, etc. Moral: Know the habits of your friends before borrowing their vehicle to cross into Canada. The dogs had a frustrated look on their faces, determined that they had been had. Btw, the RCMP is not required to return a suspect vehicle to it's original condition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,391
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,391 |
Btw, the RCMP is not required to return a suspect vehicle to it's original condition.
I can vouch for that .. we had to put our stuff back together once. A few of us were very upset as we had the discussion beforehand. Nobody was suppose to take anything with them. Going to London Ont. for a Maynard Ferguson concert back when I was still in high school. We got pulled over (from dogs), got sent to 'Inspection', and had everything in the driver's glove compartment, trunk, back seat, etc all thrown out for examination. Then they said we could go now. I remember looking at all the crap strewn about the general area and thinking 'well this was kinda rude'. Five miles down the 402 I realized just how lucky we were to have been let go.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
I had a similar experience in Florida around 1972. Some musician buddies and I were traveling from Pa to Fla to meet some friends, and our old Dodge van broke down. In those pre-Southern rock days you didn't see a lot of long hair in florida, so we definitely looked like we weren't "from around heah"
Tow truck took us to a garage in a little town named Monticello, which was closed for the weekend (the garage, not the town). My two buddies hitch hiked back to Tallahassee to see the sights, but I stayed behind to sleep in the van.
Local sheriff woke me up and ordered me out of the van, after which he threw everything out into the parking lot expecting to find drugs. He didn't. The other thing he didn't was put my stuff back in the van.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
I had a similar experience in Florida around 1972. Some musician buddies and I were traveling from Pa to Fla to meet some friends, and our old Dodge van broke down. In those pre-Southern rock days you didn't see a lot of long hair in florida, so we definitely looked like we weren't "from around heah"
Tow truck took us to a garage in a little town named Monticello, which was closed for the weekend (the garage, not the town). My two buddies hitch hiked back to Tallahassee to see the sights, but I stayed behind to sleep in the van.
Local sheriff woke me up and ordered me out of the van, after which he threw everything out into the parking lot expecting to find drugs. He didn't. The other thing he didn't was put my stuff back in the van. Pat, this is getting far afield from music but you reminded me of my Army time in Fort Hood, Texas. The State put Vehicle Safety Inspections in the hands of selected, local Service Stations (aka Gas Stations). Since annual renewal of one's license tags required passing said inspection, it became a license to steal on the part of less scrumptious gas stations. One would dare not send the wife in to have the Safety Inspection because they would condemn the tires; wipers; exhaust system; master cylinder; front end alignment; and anything else they could get away with. It was every fraud depicted in the movies tenfold. Hopefully, they've changed that since.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646 |
For me I can enjoy a cover band or someones cover of someone else s song or an original band. If the music is sonically good; that's good enough for me. Cover bands capture time in a bottle. I just love music. I know songwriting is like everything else; everyone could do it if they wanted to; but some folks prefer singing and performing to writing, and vice verso, just as some have instrument preferences. I do not know what the number of artists is; but I would think that most professional artists do a cover tune at some point in their career. 2 of the greats of all time that come to mind are Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra; they both made careers out of covers. In both of their cases they were able to make the cover their own, now folks can cover their version or the original performers version. I.E Elvis' Blue Suede Shoes some like his version others like Perkins version. Even the Beatles who were amazing songwriters on their own did cover songs. I say if you can make a living as a cover band or doing covers and you enjoy it; and the people that pay to see you leave happy; keep on plugin'! I love Elvis' Without a song speech, notice he did not say without an original song a man ain't got a friend.
My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
@Don Gaynor
That was one of the original premises of the Andy Griffith show.. I'm sure that sort of thing still exists. Hopefully , regulations from higher than local levels make it a "little bit" harder to happen. But everybody you talk to has a similar story, it seems.
@PGFantastic
Well stated, and very open-minded!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
For me I can enjoy a cover band or someones cover of someone else s song or an original band. If the music is sonically good; that's good enough for me. Cover bands capture time in a bottle. Just so. If anyone in UK has seen/heard "Talon", an Eagles tribute band, they would agree with that. Physically none of them look like ANY of The Eagles, but MUSICALLY - Awesome!! And I remember a YouTube vid of Some Californian musicians who set out to record/video the whole of Side 2 of The Beatles Abbey Road" in one Take. Totally superb piece and a true "Tribute". Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 479
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 479 |
I'm 62 and have made my living playing cover music and originals my entire adult life. I have nothing against cover music or tribute bands. If you have the talent and ability to entertain people great.
I'm doing well as a solo artist but have actually talked to friends about a possible tribute band. I think it would be fun but there is a downside. If your tribute is not dead on you won't make much money. Even if it is you will need to travel if it's to be lucrative.
As for as original songs yes they can be stories about your life but remember it's what the listener takes from it that matters. Nobody really cares about your personal life so if you are writing for therapy try to remember first and foremost you need to connect with an audience if you hope to be successful. If that doesn't matter to you that's your choice but if we are hoping for success?
Personally I love the raspberries but I don't really care if Eric Carmen and his girlfriend ever went all the way.
WSS
Last edited by Westside Steve; 12/17/14 04:15 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
Personally I love the raspberries but I don't really care if Eric Carmen and his girlfriend ever went all the way.
Hah hahahaha! Good point Steve! and thanks for weighing in on the discussion. There are many different points of view, and all of them are valid, but they don't all yield the same end result. Each person needs to understand where he wants to end up before he charts his course. Your perspective did a good job of making that point, I think. You are clearly a guy who has sufficient understanding of the topic to have made your whole living by playing music. To me, that says it all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
|
eddie1261
Unregistered
|
|
eddie1261
Unregistered
|
Nobody really cares about your personal life so if you are writing for therapy try to remember first and foremost you need to connect with an audience if you hope to be successful.
That's the key, Steve. Connecting. Writing about something in your life that has happened to everybody. Everybody has someone in their life that was "the one that got away". That is track 3 on my upcoming CD, "The One That Got Away". Everybody has had someone in their life that they wanted so badly but the feeling wasn't mutual. You know who that person is in MY life, and it ended up that I was wasting my time pursuing her. That is "Wasting My Time", track 10 on my upcoming CD.Many people have been through something life changing, making them understand that the old chestnut about not being guaranteed a tomorrow is really true. That is "Second Chance", track 4 on my upcoming CD. Many people, having lost that special person, wonder what they might do different if they had the chance to do it all again. That is "Do It All Again", track 8 on my upcoming CD. By now you know that rambling was making a point that if you write songs about things that are common to almost everybody, they will connect. You are a good songwriter, and I LOVED playing your songs! Your lyrics on those songs DO connect with the crowd. And that's why I loved playing them. I used to get teary eyed as I sang the lyrics to "All The Fools" in my head while we played it. That is a beautiful, relatable story in that lyric. That is what "connecting" is about. Everybody in that room lost somebody at some point in their life. And IMHO, that is what songwriting is about, just like you said, connecting to the listeners. I do NOT put down cover players, though a lot of people think I do. It just isn't what I want to do, so I don't do it. Maybe I would if I had to perform for a living as my sole source of income, but I would really hate that, and I don't want to hate my job. I am also uncomfortable being around people who can't control their alcohol intake, given my past, (That would be "Many Years Ago", a song about when I quit drinking. Track 9 on my upcoming CD.) so I avoid bars, and the drunken people in them, and don't want to play in bars. Also why I rarely even GO to bars. I got tired of explaining why I drink cranberry and soda a long time ago. People look at me like I am from another planet when I don't order the $9 martini or the $6 craft beer. I just don't drink. Period. Just like I prefer to not play copy music. As a wise Irish guy told me not long ago over on The Book Of Face, the show must go on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
|
eddie1261
Unregistered
|
|
eddie1261
Unregistered
|
Personally I love the raspberries but I don't really care if Eric Carmen and his girlfriend ever went all the way. I was more shocked, back in those early 70s when that song came out, that he was even interested in girls....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
speaking of tribute bands...
I'm auditioning for the John Lennon role in a Raleigh NC based Beatles tribute band. I'm recording my practice singing in order to zero in on John's pronunciation and accent... plus the tricks they did in those days to avoid hard consonant pops into the mic.
I can sing in John's range, but my voice is not a dead ringer for his. In tribute bands, that is considered a good thing if the vocals really sound like the original.
Is anybody aware of a hardware vocal modeler? Something that changes the characteristics of a voice to sound like specific singers? The sound of a voice is determined by all sorts of physical attributes... nasal cavity, length of vocal chords, shape of the mouth, size of the tongue, etc etc etc. You can imitate inflections and change EQ all day long, but if your physical characteristics aren't pretty close to the person being emulated, you won't sound the same.
The only device I'm aware of is the TC Helicon voiceworks PLUS... but it doesn't claim to be a true voice modeling engine. Is anybody aware of one?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Pat, What you are trying to do is actually an impersonation. Best way I know is to sing along with a ton of Lennon vocals, and mimic his voice. I'm not aware of any machine that can do that for you. Lennon was a very nasal singer, most of his sound coming out of that great hooter.  Also, you could pick up one of these: http://www.rickenbacker.com/model.asp?model=325C64 Good luck on the audition. Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
Bob... thanks for your astute observations. I guess there is no quick way to get what I need. Practice practice. And I've never "had to" go buy a cool guitar before... so if I get the gig, it will be fun finding a Rickenbacker... but I won't be able to afford the model John played... on eBay the go for $4,000 to $6,000... and that ain't gonna happen! I've found look-alike 300s (except 2 pups instead of 3) for a fraction of the price But, for a cheap imitation of the man, a cheap imitation of the guitar is in order... 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,672
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,672 |
John also played a epiphone casino at times, and they can be purchased for a reasonable price at musician's friend. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/epiphone-limited-edition-casino-hollowbody-electric-guitar#productDetail read the info here
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
@Pat, if you can do a reasonable faximile of Lennon, I my be able to get you airplay in the affluent (not effluent) Seattle market. Bob Rivers just retired but I still hear from him and Joe Bryant has inherited the microphone. I hear from Joe several times per week.
Obviously, no guarantees but Joe will very likely listen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
@Pat, if you can do a reasonable faximile of Lennon, I my be able to get you airplay in the affluent (not effluent) Seattle market. Bob Rivers just retired but I still hear from him and Joe Bryant has inherited the microphone. I hear from Joe several times per week.
Obviously, no guarantees but Joe will very likely listen. Thanks Don... I've got a ways to go before I can pass as John Lennon
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
Thanks Rob! That's good to know. Hey, I might need BOTH! Wouldn't that be a shame??
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,374
Posts791,397
Members39,867
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean