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I wrote this song on guitar with this arpeggiated triplet but couldn't find the proper BIAB instruments until now. I didn't think of searching for piano. So here it is as I intended. https://soundcloud.com/lawrence-olivier/thinking-of-you-arpeggioand for those who might be interested, here is my first attempt ... https://soundcloud.com/lawrence-olivier/thinking-of-youThinking of you (August 2012?) Well I’m stoned drunk again Walking home alone once again And I’m thinking, I’m thinking of you And I try, yes I do to control the things I do But you’re like a vice that I just cain’t lose And I wonder just how long/ I can survive, carry on It’s like a cold, cold rain/ that never washes away the pain That thunder calls, and I’m stone drunk again So I remain the same Night after night I never change There’s nothing I can do to keep my self From thinking of you And I wonder just how long/ I can survive, carry on It’s like a cold, cold rain/ that never washes away the pain That thunder calls, and I’m stone drunk again
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Lawrence, Brother you can really sing. Very soulful. I have to say I always liked this song and I prefer the original. It's got that Steve Cropper style guitar and the Booker T B3. It's just right for the style. And the drum sound is better in the original. Sometimes it's better not to screw with perfection. Anything in this Van Morrison right from the heart soulful style is your wheelhouse. Excellent!!! So glad I heard this again. Tom
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Lawrence, Brother you can really sing. Very soulful. I have to say I always liked this song and I prefer the original. It's got that Steve Cropper style guitar and the Booker T B3. It's just right for the style. And the drum sound is better in the original. Sometimes it's better not to screw with perfection. Anything in this Van Morrison right from the heart soulful style is your wheelhouse. Excellent!!! So glad I heard this again. Tom That is too cool that you like the original (in one sense "mistake") better. That is a nice Hendrix-like guitar from BIAB. And I don't dislike it as much as I thought. I was simply happy to find the piano (a midi super track) with the triplets and give it a go the way I wrote it. Vocally I feel the vibe of the melody better with the triplets. Thank you!
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Hi Lawrence,
I like both versions. Your voice is just great.
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Hi Lawrence, Have listened to both versions... The first version wins for me Voice and guitar are of course outstanding in both versions, but the second "orchestra" gets predictable after a while. And the first version sounds more like "stone drunk again" IMHE(xperience)  G Fred
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I like both versions too.. and I can see why you were looking for the arpeggiated instrumentation. But here are a couple of reasons why I prefer the original: 1) The arpeggiated thing has been done so many times it's hard to make it sound new, even when its wrapped in a clever new song like yours. 2) Your first go-round is unique to you. And I like the sparse arrangement with the prominent snare and background organ. It's more of a gutsy bluesy sound that matches the theme of your song without sounding like something that's been done before. Since you have such a signature sound, I almost hate to hear you venture into familiar territory... you're too good at being unique to bother with anything ordinary. having said that, the second version is more lush and R&B whereas the first version was more sparse and bluesy. I'd kind of like to hear horns in the 2nd version since you opted to take it in a more orchestrated direction. Or not. Both versions are great! Have listened to both versions... The first version wins for me
Voice and guitar are of course outstanding in both versions, but the second "orchestra" gets predictable after a while. maybe the addition of horns would break it up a bit
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Hi Lawrence, We like this one very much, but the first version is very different from this one and is also very good. We don't know which one to choose.... so we'd better not  Rob and Anne-Marie
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Lawrence, Brother you can really sing. Very soulful. I have to say I always liked this song and I prefer the original. It's got that Steve Cropper style guitar and the Booker T B3. It's just right for the style. And the drum sound is better in the original. Sometimes it's better not to screw with perfection. Anything in this Van Morrison right from the heart soulful style is your wheelhouse. Excellent!!! So glad I heard this again. Tom What he said. Excellent write. Killer vocal, as always. The piano in the new version seems too "thin" to me - so it seems out of place in the production - against such a powerful vocal (incredible vocal). I had the sense that it needed to be fat and dark...(I like the "idea" of it) I enjoyed both listens. floyd
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I think the 1st version sounds more lonesome and soulful.
More down and out.
The 2nd version fuller and beautifully done makes me think of the platters.
Like both equally. Cheers
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Hi Lawrence,
I like both versions. Your voice is just great.
Guenter Guenter, Thank you. Hi Lawrence, Have listened to both versions... The first version wins for me Voice and guitar are of course outstanding in both versions, but the second "orchestra" gets predictable after a while. And the first version sounds more like "stone drunk again" IMHE(xperience) G Fred Thanks for listening and commenting. Yes there is a repetitive thing happening with the piano. I like both versions too.. and I can see why you were looking for the arpeggiated instrumentation. But here are a couple of reasons why I prefer the original:
1) The arpeggiated thing has been done so many times it's hard to make it sound new, even when its wrapped in a clever new song like yours.
2) Your first go-round is unique to you. And I like the sparse arrangement with the prominent snare and background organ. It's more of a gutsy bluesy sound that matches the theme of your song without sounding like something that's been done before. Since you have such a signature sound, I almost hate to hear you venture into familiar territory... you're too good at being unique to bother with anything ordinary.
having said that, the second version is more lush and R&B whereas the first version was more sparse and bluesy.
I'd kind of like to hear horns in the 2nd version since you opted to take it in a more orchestrated direction. Or not. Both versions are great! Thank you Pat. When I wrote this song I was trying to convey to a younger friend that he didn't have to try to reinvent the wheel every time he wrote a song. When I picked up my guitar this old 50's style just kind of came out and it was perfect for what I was tying to get across to him so I went all in with it and wrote this song. Hi Lawrence, We like this one very much, but the first version is very different from this one and is also very good. We don't know which one to choose.... so we'd better not Rob and Anne-Marie Thank you both. I think they each have their place. And I think it's great to be able to play around with different styles so easily with BIAB! What he said.
Excellent write. Killer vocal, as always.
The piano in the new version seems too "thin" to me - so it seems out of place in the production - against such a powerful vocal (incredible vocal). I had the sense that it needed to be fat and dark...(I like the "idea" of it)
I enjoyed both listens.
floyd Thanks Floyd. The piano, bass and strings are midi from BIAB and rendered with the Dimension Pro soft synth that comes with Sonar. I didn't do much to them except roll off some low end on the bass and piano. I think the 1st version sounds more lonesome and soulful.
More down and out.
The 2nd version fuller and beautifully done makes me think of the platters.
Like both equally. Cheers Thanks Rich, that's exactly what I was going for.
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We're down with Tommy and Pat. They both expressed
our thoughts very well re a somewhat preference for
numero uno. However, you sing it so strongly that
either version has HUGE appeal.
BTW, Janice wanted to point out the cool 60's
slow dance vibe. ALTHOUGH unlike me she was
a mere child then. She also says the first version
is more gutsy...but then she's long been a blues
gal.
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We're down with Tommy and Pat. They both expressed
our thoughts very well re a somewhat preference for
numero uno. However, you sing it so strongly that
either version has HUGE appeal.
BTW, Janice wanted to point out the cool 60's
slow dance vibe. ALTHOUGH unlike me she was
a mere child then. She also says the first version
is more gutsy...but then she's long been a blues
gal.
J&B Thanks for listening. Your right I totally missed on the dance vibe but that was what I was shooting for.
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Gruverider,
Great voice on you, brother. Is that your bluesy guitar I'm listening to now? Hey Tommy, watch your back!
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Gruverider,
Great voice on you, brother. Is that your bluesy guitar I'm listening to now? Hey Tommy, watch your back!
Aleck Rand (aka Dean Clark) Thank you. Yes that's my re-issue, sea foam green, Japanese Strat with faded pots.
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Hi Gruverider,
What a fantastic song and vocals!
I like both versions but I prefer the original version. I like the Hendrix'esque backing guitar more than the piano arpeggio. Lovely guitar solo too, perfect fit for the song.
Superb!
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Hi Gruverider,
What a fantastic song and vocals!
I like both versions but I prefer the original version. I like the Hendrix'esque backing guitar more than the piano arpeggio. Lovely guitar solo too, perfect fit for the song.
Superb!
Rec Thank you for having a listen and for your kind words. There is something almost magical about Hendrix style chording.
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Hi Lawrence, One of my favs of yours. Hard to choose could easily go either way. Agree with Rich - piano gives the song a Platters vibe. I think Pat had a great idea on adding horns if you go with the piano plus I might stick a little B3 in there too. I think this is one of those decisions only you can make - no pun intended with the only you.  Josie
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Hi Lawrence, One of my favs of yours. Hard to choose could easily go either way. Agree with Rich - piano gives the song a Platters vibe. I think Pat had a great idea on adding horns if you go with the piano plus I might stick a little B3 in there too. I think this is one of those decisions only you can make - no pun intended with the only you. Josie Thank you for your comments. I had to try both versions. It's just too much fun (and easy with BIAB) to be able to present songs in in different forms to let an opportunity pass. And you made me smile with the pun!
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gruverider quote: "Thank you Pat. When I wrote this song I was trying to convey to a younger friend that he didn't have to try to reinvent the wheel every time he wrote a song. When I picked up my guitar this old 50's style just kind of came out and it was perfect for what I was tying to get across to him so I went all in with it and wrote this song."
I listened to both versions and think the first version fits the vibe and matches your lyrics best. I agree with others who've mentioned a Platters, Drifters feel about the second version and that vibe sort of disconnects with the lyrics.
Both versions match your vocals superbly and can stand on their own as separate songs. I suggest you make them separate songs. The Drifters produced a whole suite of songs of similar themes and used the same chord progressions.
Examining your lyrics, it should not take but a few minutes to sober up your main character and refocus him on the walk home in the cold rain. Think in terms that Country music likes stoned drunks, regardless of the reason and the Drifters and Platters were all about love.
Excellent work on both songs by the way.
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Both versions match your vocals superbly and can stand on their own as separate songs. I suggest you make them separate songs. The Drifters produced a whole suite of songs of similar themes and used the same chord progressions.
Examining your lyrics, it should not take but a few minutes to sober up your main character and refocus him on the walk home in the cold rain. Think in terms that Country music likes stoned drunks, regardless of the reason and the Drifters and Platters were all about love.
Excellent work on both songs by the way.
Charlie Some interesting ideas. Thank you for taking time to share. Definitely food for thought.
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