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- exactly what does imitone do?
imitone translates sound into MIDI, the "language" of digital music.
As a virtual keyboard, it can control almost any music app or instrument.
Because it is nearly instant, you can sing and feel like you're playing.
imitone also understands humming, whistling and musical instruments.
Optional modes let you control loudness, vibrato and other effects live.


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interesting product...

but you can already do this in Real Band. If you hum along with your song and record it in a mono track, you can convert it to MIDI and apply patches to it, all without leaving the RB environment.

You can also export your hummed track to melodyne and make the same conversion there, then import the MIDI back into the project. But, that takes more steps.

If nothing else, this video has made me more interested in spending more time experimenting with RBs audio to MIDI feature.

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that's a good idea!

I didn't know that RealBand had an audio to midi feature!


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Just tested a single vocal line in RB -- didn't pick up but about 1/10 of the notes. I am sure that if I increased the volume of the vocal line, it might work better.


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you need to experiment to find out what RB needs in order to get it right. For example sliding from note to note would probably not yield the same results as staccato notes. Also longer notes would probably stand a better chance of being recognized than shorter notes.

Like any other tool, it comes with a learning curve

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does BB it do so in Real Time ? Isn't this the point ?

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does BB it do so in Real Time ? Isn't this the point ?


For recording purposes, "real time" conversion is not a necessary feature. So, for me, it would not be the point of a tool like this. But as a live performer, real time conversion might be a new, cool tool to play around with.


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I have come pretty close to pulling the trigger on this -- but I haven't done it yet. I wish I could be confident that I could get it working on my setup!


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hmmm... $25 and $60 versions

That's really inexpensive for a midi controller that captures not only the notes, but also the EXPRESSIVE quality of the MIDI! You can piano roll MIDI all day long if you only need pitch and duration... but believable velocity dynamics are really hard to create manually.

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a youtube demo

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable on stage looking like this guy as he plays his voice... wink

But as a studio MIDI input device, it would be useful to me.

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Early on with their work, I gave $25 to them thru Kickstarter.
Got a lot of emails with status, but did not follow any further.
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I think it's really, really cool - especially for guys like you Pat, that are looking to add some unique things to their live performance. Get over the appearance thing - it's really cool and novel, not to mention as musical as you are !

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I think it's really, really cool - especially for guys like you Pat, that are looking to add some unique things to their live performance. Get over the appearance thing - it's really cool and novel, not to mention as musical as you are !


from the standpoint of presenting an audience with interesting sights and sounds, this would certainly be one thing that would catch peoples' attention. Most people are interested in seeing or hearing something new.

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I may experiment with Melodyne to see if I can do the same thing... not in real time, but just for the sake of recording highly nuanced midi solos with my voice.

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Early on with their work, I gave $25 to them thru Kickstarter.
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looking at the promise dates (It was supposed to be ready for sale in mid 2014) and multiple disclaimers about it being in beta and may still have glitches, I get the impression the programmer has hit a brick wall.

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I can see a great benefit for a writer, especially one who gets a melody together inside your head, just hum it, it will record and convert to midi, then with a suitable notation program that can handle midi, all you need is the paper in the printer.
Or at very least read off the screen and play it with your chosen instrument so you know if any changes are required.
Save a lot of time of laborious writing note for note.

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I bought the $25 version a few months back...my initial impression (and the developer actually cautions about this) is it is very difficult to control your voice precisely enough to end up with something clean that does not require a great deal of editing. And, if you have to do a lot of editing you might be just as well off playing your tune on a MIDI controller to input it.

I am hopeful that this product will improve and/or I will learn to use it more effectively because it is a really cool concept that would be really great for getting the melodies in my head quickly into MIDI!

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a little more info...just ran the software and got this notice

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Keep an eye out for the massively improved 0.7.0 update, which debuted at NAMM and will be coming out later this week!
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I doubt they would be debuting at NAMM if "the programmer has hit a brick wall"! laugh

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regarding note control: I was wondering if it would be helpful to sing through a hardware pitch correction device, and send the corrected audio to the program. That would save the program some overhead of having to pitch correct before it knows where to place the note.

Since that appears to be the major problem... the solution could be fairly simple and avaialble now to anyone who has a voice live or similar hardware for correcting vocal pitch.

Going back to Melodyne...

this wouldn't work for live performances... but for anyone who wants to record midi tracks using their voice as MIDI controller, Melodyne would offer several advantages:

1) it could pitch correct the voice automatically If you are going to send the notes to an instrument patch, most instruments are naturally more perfectly intonated than the human voice. Pitch correcting would increase realism.

2) you could use melodyne like piano roll to experiment and change your track after recording it

3) Melodyne can create all kinds of harmonies from a melody

4) Melodyne also provides other editing tools to fatten up or slim down a note, extend it, shorten it, slide into it, add or subtract vibrato, split it into multiple notes, change key etc etc

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I doubt they would be debuting at NAMM if "the programmer has hit a brick wall"! laugh


well.. that poses the question "what does it mean to hit a brick wall?"

Does it mean "project over? we failed?"
Not in this case. The fact that the kickstarter exceeded its requirements to continue makes it pretty awkward to quit (not that some kickstarter projects that got fully funded haven't bailed on their commitment)

Does it mean "they hit a snag that slowed them down?"
In this case, yes. Reading the early information about the product, they were expecting to be shipping product in the middle of last year. It's still in development.

I think it's great that they are presenting it at NAMM. I also think that the kickstarter response is a pretty good indication of the interest in such a project, and that they are gonna sell the tar out of it. The cost to benefit ratio is better than any other MIDI controller I'm aware of.

It doesn't have to be limited to voice... you could play any instrument into it and turn it into midi. That's huge!

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