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Bob,
If you put any effect that has a meter in the master effects insert and move the fader the signal to that effect changes. It should not. It's an insert.
Now in live sound your drive rack ( EQ, compressor etc. ) do come after the master faders so in some instances the way RB is wired is OK. It's just not what other programs do. Nor is it wired as an insert should be. Sonar has this insert before the master fader. Audition gives you a choice . The idea is to be able to move the fader without having the drive level to the inserted effect change. It's not a big deal to me however it's not conventional.
Another way to look at it also, and this may be PG's view, is that the Master is really the control on your soundcard.



I guess you don't understand my mastering explanation above.

I have invested a bit of $$ in plugins for mastering. Some are specific meter functions, measuring the P/A and RMS accurately (I assume).
Why would I want my signal going thru one last fader to mess up those carefully set levels?
When you say PGMusic is considering the soundcard the 'master', it's like saying the volume on the amp is the master, or the volume knob for powered monitors.
What I am talking about here is the digital signal that is getting written at merge down. That is all we should be concerned with. The actual listening volume should be controlled elsewhere. Two different things, man..
If you understand that what comes out of that final output FX is the signal that gets written to the stereo wav file, I don't see why you would want to run it thru one last fader..after any chance to measure the real effect has passed.
We are not talking about a live mixer you adjust by ear to the room, it is a recording mixer with accurate monitoring capabilities, as it is now.

As for how to control the output volume without affecting the input to the FX chain, I still think putting PGPeakLimit in the last FX slot would be the simplest way (or just turning your speaker volume down), if you did want to control the output volume for some reason. But remember it is affecting what you are writing to file..

I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!