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Originally Posted By: Pat Marr


You're fairly new here, so you may not be aware of some unwritten forum courtesies. After 20 songs, posts scroll off the first page. Once a song scrolls off the 1st page it is far less likely to get heard or commented on.

As a general courtesy, most people here refrain from posting a new song while they still have an active song on page 1. Occasionally, a stray comment will bump a song back to page one, and then the same person has more than one song on the front page... but as a general rule, we try to share the front page.

Posting a bunch of songs all at once is called "dumping" , and it forces other newly posted songs to page 2. You can probably see why that might upset the person whose song got pushed out so somebody else can have multiple songs on page 1 at the same time.


Pat, that's a reasonable point and I wonder if PGM might promulgate it.

At the top of the User Showcase forum is a section: "User Showcase Info and FAQ" with guidelines. Such a statement might be added there so that newer users could be familiar with 'best practice'.

Is that worthwhile following up?

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Ditto

Caveat: I know this thread doesn't meet the posting criteria but IMHO the topic does warrant some discussion.

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Hi Trevor,

good idea!

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It makes sense.

+1 from me too.

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Sounds good to me.

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That makes sense to me.

+1 from Wales

Also rather than just saying "all produced in BIAB" etc I'd like to see a list of the Realtracks and/or Realdrums used in each song for no other reason than it is an excellent way to discover new RTs,RDs to use in my songs.

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I clicked on the NOTIFY MODERATOR button, and requested that this thread be read and that the changes to the USER SHOWCASE INFO AND FAQ be made as described in this thread.

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I finish a song about every three days, I apologize if it looks like dumping, it's not.


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Originally Posted By: Will Rockwell
I finish a song about every three days, I apologize if it looks like dumping, it's not.


I don't think it is the intention of anyone to dampen your enthusiasm nor reduce your prolific output. Judging from the comments, we all seem to enjoy your music. However, you don't want to be so prolific with submissions that the listeners ear begins to tire of your unique or signature sound.

Some other prolific writers here use a web page to place all their music and then post one on the forum every so often, which is directed to the website where all of their songs are listed. One can then choose to listen to as many of your works as they wish.


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Originally Posted By: Pat Marr
I clicked on the NOTIFY MODERATOR button, and requested that this thread be read and that the changes to the USER SHOWCASE INFO AND FAQ be made as described in this thread.


Great Pat, thanks. It seems that most users support the idea.

It's certainly more equitable that all contributors are given a fair and reasonable opportunity to get exposure to their work, rather than being pushed off the list too quickly.

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Originally Posted By: Will Rockwell
I finish a song about every three days, I apologize if it looks like dumping, it's not.


I don't think it is the intention of anyone to dampen your enthusiasm nor reduce your prolific output. Judging from the comments, we all seem to enjoy your music. However, you don't want to be so prolific with submissions that the listeners ear begins to tire of your unique or signature sound.

Some other prolific writers here use a web page to place all their music and then post one on the forum every so often, which is directed to the website where all of their songs are listed. One can then choose to listen to as many of your works as they wish.

Great answer Charlie, and an ideal solution too!


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Ditto.... it's a good idea.... however, I see the new users come in and post a bunch of songs they may have been collecting for a time... then it tapers off rather quickly as they run out of songs and have to write new stuff...

But overall.... if PG thinks it's a good idea to mention and post in the FAQs...I'm OK with it.

Same here, I go through periods or seasons where I write a bunch of stuff in a short period of time. Like the 41 cues for a certain TV show listing. I don't think I posted any of that here. Not all of it even makes it to the light of day for folks to hear. Much of it goes straight to film & TV libraries. I post something up every now and then that I write for fun, and that doesn't go to the libraries initially.


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Originally Posted By: Will Rockwell
I finish a song about every three days, I apologize if it looks like dumping, it's not.




The Committee will review your case, Mr. Rockwell, and let you know if there will be any sanctions. grin

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Hi to everybody

to me it seems a right thing to do so when a new user starts
to post music, he knows what he can do or not do.

What has happened was completely unintentional

I apologize again with all.

Maybe it served to regularize this event so the next new users
will not repeat the mistake.

If it is valid in my opinion since I'm not classified "expert"
I think it's a thing to do and I'm agree with all you.

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Sergio and Will,

please don't be too concerned about this... we LOVE new users, and we certainly don't want to make anybody feel uncomfortable or disapproved of. We know that the enthusiasm of making great songs makes people want to share... that's why the forum is here!

I hope you continue to enjoy the forum and post your creations! I also hope you know that you are very welcome here, and everybody appears to be enjoying your songs! So, all in all, no harm done!

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Pat

thank for your words.
surely I will continue to post music.
It's too good sharing our song and I know that new users
are welcome.

no problems with you.
I am happy to be in this forum

(I would have some songs to post but as you can see I'm holding...)
grin

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Originally Posted By: Sergio Guarneri

Hi to everybody

to me it seems a right thing to do so when a new user starts
to post music, he knows what he can do or not do.

What has happened was completely unintentional

I apologize again with all.

Maybe it served to regularize this event so the next new users
will not repeat the mistake.

If it is valid in my opinion since I'm not classified "expert"
I think it's a thing to do and I'm agree with all you.

Hello






Sergio-

Non ti preoccupare. There are a lot of "experts" here, many of whom have never posted anything. grin

Of course, I can't speak for The Committee. laugh


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Hi all.
I have done some heavy posting lately.
If I have pushed others off the page or offended people I apologize.
This was pointed out to me a little while ago and I feel I have toned it down.

I have a busy life as do others.
The fact is I may not be able to visit the forum for long periods of time.

Some one made a personal complaint to me that they have commented on four of my songs
and I have only commented on one of theirs and hence they will no longer listen to my songs.

I really don't feel I need to make a defense for my actions but I will so as not to offended any one else.
If I feel a song or instrumental is out side my knowledge or experience I will listen but not necessarily comment.
I guess that's just my personal choice.

The other point to take into account is the amount of listings on a page.
When I load the forum page I have around 18 listings.
When one of my songs drops out of that 18 listings I feel the interest is waning and I make another post.

I had a complaint that I had four songs on the first page.
I only counted 2.
I took the complaint up privately with the person and they told me they had there page set up to show 50 listings on the first page, so they where seeing 4 listings.

If it is possible to set up the first page to show 100 listings it would be even worse.
This is a dilemma that needs to be addressed.

Sorry to be long winded but peoples circumstances are as different as they are individual.
Please don't have unwritten hidden rules as it only leaves a few in the know and the rest in the dark.

I apologize again to all those I have offended.
Rob.

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