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Ekscuse my bad english.
I think the oldstyle odd look of the Biab ads in music magazines are very harmfull - and have been very harmful through the years for the widespread and sales of Biab.
The add look like something that I could have produced with Pagemaker on my first Mac SE in 1990.
The add is breaking all Typhograpich rules in one go. Quite a feast. Its downright ugly. People just dont read adds that arent attractive in any way. I could go on and on rambling about the trouble with the adds. They are catastrophic.
I love Biab.
But please Mr. Gannon - the the add you produced yourself on the office Mac in 1991, just dont cut it anymore. Yes your mother was proud of you - and the girls in the office were impressed that you learned to master Pagemaker.
But mabee its time to move on an hire professionel people to make a new add.
And maybee its not a good idear to use the same add for 10-15 years.
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Hanki
While I cannot comment about the advertising, I can say "Welcome to the forums"
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Well, welcome back then, Hanki!
Many people here have commented on the dated appearance of the PG Music logo and the BIAB user interface. I haven't read any music magazines in years, so I wasn't aware that print ads were still running. If it is as you say, then yes, they should be brought up to date. I have also long advocated for documentation of OF Music products being turned over to specialists for the sake of completeness and proper indexing. Perhaps someone is listening.
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Some people have too much time on their hands.
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Hanki, Thank you for your input. It would help if you (or anyone) could provide a link to an ad somewhere on the Intenet that you do like.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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"Some people have too much time on their hands."
Well said,
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I think it could be a matter of "You can't please all the people all the time". Advertising is an art as much as a science. What pulls in new customers? Does a particular ad appeal to some, and turn away others? Is modern always better? Is something out of the ordinary more noticeable? Is a more traditional ad suggest stability? I think anything that some people like, others will dislike. Like the GUI of BiaB. Some people hate it, for me it's very functional. I think it is neither beautiful nor ugly, but I like that the buttons to the features I need are on the screen when I need them. That's what's important to me. As far as the ads are concerned. You could think of them as dated, or you can think of them as traditional. If you are already a BiaB customer, it must have worked for you. Peter, I'd love to give you advice on how to write the best new customer pulling add in the universe, but if I knew that, I'd also become a consultant, because Microsoft, Apple, General Motors, Warner Brothers, EMI, and millions of other companies would pay huge bucks for that kind of information.  Thanks for the software, for me, that's what counts! Insights and incites by Notes
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I love Biab.
But please Mr. Gannon - the the add you produced yourself on the office Mac in 1991, just dont cut it anymore. Yes your mother was proud of you - and the girls in the office were impressed that you learned to master Pagemaker.
But mabee its time to move on an hire professionel people to make a new add.
And maybee its not a good idear to use the same add for 10-15 years.
1st if all welcome back Hanki (but) IMHO . . . Wow you could have gotten the same message across without the last two pretty sarcastic digs at Mr. Gannon, or is it just me seeing it this way? Later,
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I love Biab.
But please Mr. Gannon - the the add you produced yourself on the office Mac in 1991, just dont cut it anymore. Yes your mother was proud of you - and the girls in the office were impressed that you learned to master Pagemaker.
But mabee its time to move on an hire professionel people to make a new add.
And maybee its not a good idear to use the same add for 10-15 years.
1st if all welcome back Hanki (but) IMHO . . . Wow you could have gotten the same message across without the last two pretty sarcastic digs at Mr. Gannon, or is it just me seeing it this way? Later, Agreed. Got no couth at all. Do people still actually read 'music magazines'? I need to get out more! 
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Could we at least give credit to the OP for wanting to help? Perhaps it could have been phrased better, but it is clear that he is concerned about the success of PG Music products. Many of us have suggested other things that could use improvement. I don't remember anyone being criticized as this individual has. How about some positive comments here? Otherwise we are guilty of the same thing with the OP is charged.
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Could we at least give credit to the OP for wanting to help? Perhaps it could have been phrased better, but it is clear that he is concerned about the success of PG Music products. Many of us have suggested other things that could use improvement. I don't remember anyone being criticized as this individual has. How about some positive comments here? Otherwise we are guilty of the same thing with the OP is charged.
Richard Horse pucky. 'Could have been phrased better'? Ya think?  Regards, Bob
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I like the retro feel to the advertising. Tends to attact a specific demographic and at the same time keep out the riff raff. And regarding the OPs comments. I can cut him a little slack since English is not his native language. He may have been simply trying to inject a little humor. I once tried to tell a joke in Japanese and almost got a drink thrown in my face. 
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There is one very important thing that has been missed and that is Peter's reply:
"Hanki, Thank you for your input. It would help if you (or anyone) could provide a link to an ad somewhere on the Intenet that you do like. _________________________ Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc. "
Thus far no responses to this!
If you want the adds to change then give Peter some suggestions.
I would like to share some adds but I am about 1200 miles from my computers. I am using a very old and slow ASUS notebook running Ubuntu Linux that won't let me onto a lot of sites and times out quite frequently. It is the computer's fault, not necessarily the OS.
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I kind of like the adds that features a young blond girl draped over an amp with a guitar between her .... oh, nevermind, that might not work for us here. 
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Dan: You disagree with me. That's fine, but is it necessary to attack me too? I'm just trying to keep this discussion in line with something I heard about our forum being a friendly place.
I agree that the OP would be well advised to provide an example as the Good Doctor requested.
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.......You disagree with me. That's fine, but is it necessary to attack me too? Can you correct that, I got a reputation to protect around these parts... or did I miss something here?
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Sorry. 
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C'mon guys give Hanki a break, the first thing he said was
"Ekscuse my bad english."
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