This is my first post and I am a relative novice to BIAB. I have generated chords using an MP3 -- edited the chords to remove/replace the worst offender chords -- and chose a style which fits the original song which happens to be a RealTrack.
All of that is mostly fine. The software is reasonably intuitive for all of those parts and worked reasonably well. Certainly even with the "mistakes" on the chords -- BIAB still did this much faster than I could have at this musical stage.
The issue is when I wanted to take a bar or two and force a walking bass line. The style I selected works for most - but is not a walking style. What I did intuitively was right-click on the measure to walk and changed the style to one that always/mostly walks. Lots of previewing styles and I had one selected.
The issue is this: even though the style is changed and I asked BIAB to change the patch -- and anything else I could find to indicate the bass should assume the new style's personality -- the bass continued to remain the sampled RealTrack bass. I "told" the measure to change the bass track to a MIDI instrument.
I know a RealBand/RealTrack performance would sound "odd" if the instrument changed for a measure just to make it walk -- at least to an in-tune listener to a radio. But I don't mind the texture/color difference for my purposes.
Is there a way to change styles when using a RealStyle? Or is this a current limitation in the architecture/audio-rendering where only performances assembled in a single RealBand can be utilized for a given instrument?
Any creative "hacks" around this - like maybe have two basses - each with its own (different) RealStyle and rest one while playing the other (and swap the rest/play around to switch feels)? I know before I said I was switching to a MIDI style - so same idea applies there.
I did do a quick search for related topics and did not find one -- although I used google and not the forum.
... as an "oh yeah" -- although generating my own RealBand or RealTrack may be a way around this -- I was hoping there would be an "easier" before evolving to that step.
Also look up "Hybrid Style" in Help. That might do the job.
From my perspective, it seems that what you are after would be better accomplished in Realband.
Simply open the BIAB file in Realband and let it generate. Once it is generated, selected a suitable walking bass Realtrack and load it on an unused track. It will then be possible to copy and paste the sections of the new bass track and put it into the original track. (This is how I'd accomplish what you're after.)
selected a suitable walking bass Realtrack and load it on an unused track. It will then be possible to copy and paste the sections of the new bass track and put it into the original track.
Regards, Noel
Just throwing an idea here. Wouldn't it be easier to just cut that portion and let the unused track play in it's place on it's own track? That's what I do. PS: Noel, I love the suggestion(s) you make.
DE
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Although I have not yet implemented a song using the suggestions (have been still working on running through some other orientation steps) - the prevailing wisdom has been that changing a RealStyle mid-stream is not supported in BIAB and therefore RealBand is required to do the surgery.
Either using two tracks of two different styles and resting one style (or mute) - in this case a walking vs. non-walking bass part - can be employed. Alternatively, it is possible to borrow measures from a second track by copying over the measures from a second track and pasting into an existing track such that there will be only one track used vs more than one.
Use of "hybrid style" was suggested (something which does not require RealBand) - although this only seems to allow to mix and match different instruments from different styles and not, in its pure sense, allow for editing one instrument within the style. Just to try: under the "File" tool bar -> StyleMaker... -> Make A Hybrid Style ... -> Pick "Bass" and. This menu allows to "transplant" a part from another style - but not within the context of a given measure range. If a measure range could be assigned for such a style change - then "hybrid style" would work. However, this suggestion (using Hybrid Style) cannot be used to accomplish the task at hand - to change a single measure or a few measures from one bass style (R&B type style) to another style (walking line).
Jason
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Although I have not yet implemented a song using the suggestions (have been still working on running through some other orientation steps) - the prevailing wisdom has been that changing a RealStyle mid-stream is not supported in BIAB and therefore RealBand is required to do the surgery.
... Jason
You can change styles by selecting the required bar and pressing function key F5
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I just created a song where I changed RealStyles every 8 bars and the RealTracks changed (you can hear it); however, while you will see the style change displayed in the currently selected style box, you won't actually see the individual instruments change in the mixer or in the radio buttons along the top. Maybe an item for the wishlist.
But you can in fact change styles (both MIDI and Real) at any bar and it will play properly.
One thing to remember, though, is that volume, pan, and reverb controls are set for the track for the whole song.
John
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