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Most of us fall somewhere in between. There is a line between the two that separates musicians from non-musicians So where a person starts/stops being a musician is just a matter of where each of us draws the bar. And the bar seems to be different between you and me.

Since the various definitions of music seem to be open to interpretation, and some actually seem to conflict a bit with each other, I'm afraid we will simply have to respectfully agree to disagree.

I'm not going to convince you that the guy playing pre-recorded loops in Ableton Live is not a musician, and you are not going to convince me he is. And that's OK.


I know for myself, I am always looking to find out how people determine where they stand on things. It's not that I have a problem with that they have a stance, it's more about what it is smile

My question to you then is, if a different guy/gal stepped up to that ableton live set up, cleared out all of the loops, and said "I'm going to load in some piano samples" NOT LOOPS, individual samples, and proceeded to originate or duplicate a song (your choice). Is that a person a musician? (Hint, in my book, there is no wrong answer here.)

Just curious your thoughts. I realize our opinions are not the same. They probably are not as far apart as you may think though! If I didn't care what you thought, I wouldn't even ask in the first place smile

Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.