|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
Some of you may recall the first time I posted this song a few months ago. I had a bad cold but decided to do the vocals myself and --well-- , got what I paid for....... I recently had the opportunity to work with an old friend of many years, Debbie Lanier, and we re-worked this song. I accepted her suggestions for some lyric changes, removed the third chorus and replaced it with a third verse she wrote. Debbie did the vocals this time. All music is BIAB as listed below. Hopefully, you will find it more paletable to your ears this go round. Enjoy and comments welcome. Hide My Tears with vocals lowered in mix Per recent comments, I lowered the vocals a little in the mix. Title: Hide My Tears Key=G , Tempo 72, Length (m:s)=3:59 Style is _FPBRT01.STY (Brent FP Gtr's with Piano and PS) RealTracks in style: ~701:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesSync Ev 085 RealTracks in style: ~368:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 065 RealTracks in style: ~1676:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryBrent Ev 065 RealTracks in style: ~364:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 065 RealTracks in song: 2024:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm CountryJohn Ev 085 RealTracks in song: ~~369:Pedal Steel, Background Ev 065 RealDrums in style: NashvilleEven8^3-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, HiHat Open Lyrics: Please tell me why you don't wanna talk about it Your eyes tell me you're searching for a way to say goodby You know that I don't want to fight you about it I just want to hold you close tonight Loneliness surrounds me Even though I've tried and tried I don't find any comfort So my tears I try to hide Each day I live in sorrow and I feel the pain Seems like the sun never shines and I don't see no change Look into my eyes and tell me what you see It has to be true love that's all that it can be Loneliness surrounds me Even though I've tried and tried I don't find any comfort So my tears I try to hide But wait -- I feel your arms surround me Could this mean you want to try Your eyes tell me you're searching for a way to make things right I promise I, I'll try not to hurt you I just want to hold you close to me tonight
Last edited by c_fogle; 04/27/15 12:15 AM.
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,719
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,719 |
This is absolutely gorgeous Charlie. Debbie's voice sounds so good and the restrained and sympathetic backing is just right. Most enjoyed. Cheers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199 |
Hi Charlie, That was a very pleasant listen indeed  For what it's worth... On my system, the vocal stood out in front of the backing more than I've usually heard. It might be me (I find mixing incredibly challenging) but, if you ever decide to play around with the track again in the future, it could be a productive exercise to see how the song sounds with the vocal reduced by a 1 - 2 dB. Alternatively, maybe the backing could be brought a little more forward. As I said, though, this was definitely a pleasant listen. Debbie has a very easy-on-the-ears voice. Best regards to you both, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,803
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,803 |
Hi Charlie
Great effort with a really nice song.
I listened before reading the other posts, but I kind-of agree with Noel, that the vocals might be a little too much up front.
This could be because you are so pleased to have made the improvement you were looking for, that you just want to show them off (ha ha).
The recordings are all top quality, but I think you'll improve it more if you just pull the balance of the vocals back a tiny bit.
Hope this feedback is received positively. That's how it's meant!
Best
Trev
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Professional & Windows 11, Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 313
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 313 |
Charlie,
Love this production, but I remember loving the previous version also. Do you have your elder version, so I can compare?
Grtz
Fred
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 188
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 188 |
Hello, Charlie.
I missed out on the first version, but I found this version quite enjoyable.
Thanks for the music,
Dan
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888 |
Hi Charlie,
with Debbie you have found a gem. Especially
like the harmonies. Would have wished some more.
But others are right: a little too much out in front.
The song is worth it making that little change.
Guenter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,933
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,933 |
Hi Charlie and Debbie
Wow! I really love this vocal. It sounded very good to me (listening on ear buds). A really nice write and the harmonies are just beautiful. Good job.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,067
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,067 |
Hi Charlie,
We think you both have done a great job, the new vocals sound very nice especially on the choruses.
A small tip: the vocals in the verses could use slightly more reverb in our opinion.
A good listen!
Rob and Anne-Marie
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,722
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,722 |
Charlie and Debbie,
Very nice. Such a sweet vocal. And the harmonies were really nicely done.
A terrific arrangement - nice build and each instrument fell into place nicely. Excellent mix - the vocals are sitting right where they should... and all the instruments are at good levels.
I like that the song ends on a positive note - that puts it a cut above the typical "sad song"...
Well done.
floyd
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052 |
I don't remember the original but this is very nice!! Really pretty vocals and sweet harmonies. Nicely done all around! Take care. Greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831 |
What's not to love here! That chorus is super! The harmonies and the steel guitar - amazing!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
RichMac: Thanks for listening. Debbie and I seem to collaborate about once a decade any more but it is always a joy. She is a super person and talent.
Noel96: Thanks to you also for stopping by. I probably overcompensated on the vocals originally. When I sent the first mix to Debbie she thought the vocals were too low. I turned them up. I've gone back and dropped the vocals and uploaded that version after seeing yours and others early comments today. Hopefully, it's better now.
Trevor: Thanks. See my comments to Noel. Yes, I wish Debbie could sing for me more. We sang together quite a bit in years past but it has been difficult to get together the past few years. I appreciate your comments and realize they are meant to be helpful, (and they are)....
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
FredM: I appreciate you taking time to stop by and I will pull up the original and post it here in this thread to avoid confusion of having a thread for both on the forum at the same time. Check back, I will have it posted in a few hours.
Big741: Hi Dan. You didn't miss much from the first version but there is some interest to compare the two so I will post the first version here in this thread so those who wish to compare, can do so.
Thanks for stopping by.
Guenter: Thanks for your kind comments. I always appreciate you stopping by for a listen. I have hopefully fixed the vocals in the mix as I pulled them back and re-uploaded after several others commented the same.
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
JosieC: Thanks for listening and commenting. Debbie is an old friend and we have such fun when we do get together to work on a project.
RnAM: Always good to hear from you guys. I recorded this in RealBand and used the default Fx for female vocal setting for reverb and lowered the reverb to Debbie's liking. She felt the default setting to be too much reverb. The unison vocal and upper harmony both are recorded at the default level but that doesn't help in the verse when they aren't heard.
Floyd: Thanks for listening. I appreciate your comments on the mix. I try to look at the instrumentation and build of instruments and also varying the drum patterns closer. I still refer to an email from you with suggestions on a song you provided me with guidance. Debbie's first comment when hearing the song was it needed some "Hope". She made some changes to the first verse lyrics and brought the idea together with a third verse.
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
Greg: The first version was not particularly memorable. I will re-post here on this thread for comparison as some others have expressed interest to hear the original as they missed it when I posted it a few months ago. Thanks for stopping by.
Gruverider: I appreciate your comments and glad you enjoyed it.
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,751 |
For those interested in comparing the original to the remix: Hide My Tears Original Version
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199 |
Hi again, Charlie. I've just had a listen to the remixed vocals. This mix sits much better on my system. It's a beautiful sound. All the best, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,831
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,831 |
A sparse production that manages at the
same time to sound lush. That's a great
place to be with a mix.
Nice vocals and RT choice with an
arrangement that supports the feel
of the lyrics.
Kudos
We enjoyed it.
J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335 |
A sparse production that manages at the
same time to sound lush. That's a great
place to be with a mix.
Nice vocals and RT choice with an
arrangement that supports the feel
of the lyrics.
Kudos
We enjoyed it.
J&B +1, That's a good way to put it. Really like the song, the mix and the vocals. Great job! Tom
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,335
Posts791,040
Members39,858
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean