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I´m a happy user of BiaB EverythingPAK since 2011 and followed every upgrade. Now I´m thinking about upgrading to Audiophile.
Is there any "price-wise" reasonable way?
Is this possible as a "download-version"?

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Don't know what's reasonable for you.

http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm says USD 499, if I correctly read and comprehend that. An email to PGMusic will give you more specific information.

Download? That's an awful load of bits. That will keep your line busy for a long time.

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... I should have been more precise:
I´m already on BiaB 2015 build 415, and therefore don´t need the complete upgrade but only the uncompressed wav-files.
As I´m living in Hannover (Germany) I want to avoid the taxes for a hard drive

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As the audiophile version currently requires about 1.5 TB, I think that rules out downloading under present technology. That's too bad about the expense of taxes for the hard drive, but at least you do get a very nice USB 3.0 drive.


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My understanding is that the Audiophile version is only available as a hard drive distribution.


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I don't know if German customs has changed policies. Usually you only have to pay import taxes for the value of the hard drive. In Germany the value of such a hard drive is somewhere about 90 to 120 Euros, VAT included. Import tax is about the same percentage as VAT (19%), so it is somewhere about 20 Euros plus the import tax for postage...after all mailing it add to the value. smile As I said before, I don't know if they have changed policies.


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Thanks for all your hints.
I think I´ll order the hard drive. I´ll keep you posted about the taxes.

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Finally I made I made it...
I got a fair offer from the German distributor of PGM and the hard drive arrived yesterday

As I am already on the Everything PAK I wonder whether I have to install the Audiophile or just copy the realtracks and realdrums to the location where my WMA realtracks are....

Any recommendations?


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That should work. If BIAB finds a .WAV file, it uses it; otherwise it uses and uncompresses a .WMA file.

Double-check the .ST2 and .XT2 files in the /BB folder to make sure they are the same (not at a computer to check). If not, copy those too.


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Thanks Matt!
Is there any way in BIAB to see whether a .WAV or a .WMA file is used?
I know, I should hear it ... but just in case.

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Well, not exactly in BIAB. But the way BIAB works is just as I described. You don't have to 'see' it. If you really want to 'see' the difference, compare the files in a spectrum analyzer. You will definitely see a difference.

However - another thing that you can 'see' in BIAB is that you might notice a slight improvement in regeneration time, because now there is no need to uncompress the .WMA files first before loading the sound into RAM. In the early days of RealTracks, this time savings was noticeable, perhaps around 20%. Less so now. This, by the way, is why PG Music has a command to uncompress all the .WMA files. It doesn't change the sound - only the audiophile version does that - and it takes up 11 times more room, but loads like the audiophile version, which is slightly faster.

As far as hearing a difference, as I have written here innumerable times, it depends on your playback equipment, listening environment and how good your 'ears' are. Certain instruments are much easier to detect the differences, including but not limited to cymbals, acoustic guitar, and acoustic piano for starters.


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