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Well installed windows 10 last night, upgraded my windows 8 pro to windows 10 pro.
Everything went well until I reached the sign in welcome screen on 10, then the message your pc has a problem Kmode_exception_not_handled and computer wants to restart to be met with same problem, next restart
Got in on safe mode, I think I may well have a driver problem with my ATI radeon hd 4600 card, but not sure.
To be honest I don't have the time or the patience to troubleshoot this, probably will take a lot of hours and extra expense buying a new card if its that.
As windows 7 and 8 are working fine I guess its good bye 10 for the moment.
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This is interesting. If you download Win10 from this link, then you get an option to create an installation disk, and you DON'T have to Install Win 10 if you don't want to http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10You will need a clean 4 gig usb stick or a few DVDS to create the disk. If you hit the switch on the webpage, what happens is you download an exe file that give's you both options, on the first screen I am still nervous, but basically positive about this. I dont really know what drivers to check. Do you need to check them all? If you right click on the pesky little win 10 icon on the bottom right of desktop, then you can find a compatibility checker by hitting the 'hamburger' menu icon (three blue lateral lines). But is it trustworthy, muso friendly?
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The reason I sound bitter is that I anticipate that in 2017 we will have to get Win 11, then Win 12, then Win 14 (They'll skip 13. )
Welcome to the 21st Century. You are right about there not being a Windows 13, but not because of superstition. There won't be a Windows 13 because there won't be a Windows 11 or 12. Microsoft announced that Windows 10 is the end of the line. Microsoft is changing its whole business model from one of selling you newer versions of its software to providing you with a service. Microsoft will be continually rewriting and improving Windows from now on without rolling out new versions.
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My understanding from what I've read on numerous sites is that while yes, you can install Windows 10 from the downloaded ISO file, if you want the free upgrade, you must first do the in place upgrade (not a clean install). Once you have done that and logged in and registered with Microsoft's registration server, then you can do a clean install, because now Microsoft knows the signature of your computer and has assigned a Windows 10 license to it.
If you try to do a clean install with the downloaded ISO, then it's going to ask you for a Windows 10 license key (which you won't have, because you didn't buy it).
I've seen this information on numerous sites, but it could be wrong. I'm sure some folks will try it and we'll hear their reports back.
For me, I left both my computers doing a system drive image this morning to be able to revert back quickly if I need to, so I should be able to try to upgrade either tonight or tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.
By the way, the files it downloads in the background (if you clicked on the "reserve my copy" icon) will take up 6 GB of C: drive disk space.
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Free is never free.
There ain't no free lunch...ect ect
And windows is not the only OS that will run BIAB or any other software I need to run.
Yes I run Windows 7 Ultimate and may go to 10 at some point but no one, not even Microsoft has a gun to my head to force me to use their products, and if Microsoft gets completely out of hand cost wise in the future with "renting it" by the month there are other options.
They can keep their free upgrade crap and if and when I want to go to Win 10 I will buy it just like I did Win 7.
I am not doing beta testing for anyone for three or four hundred dollars, may as well go work at the local beer joint for that kind of money...lol
The stuff we put up with from big business and big government is is out of control. Next thing you know there will be a federal BIAB posting tax...lol
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Can't help you just info:
I have a HD 6970 and it was fine in the Win 10 Tech Preview I had installed.
but a just a few days before going "live" MS pushed a patch (update) that really screwed up NVida cards/drivers and there was a panic patch to correct
so...
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What can I say. I had a long winded treatise on this (against the need to jump right now but) but bottom line is: Win 10 is inevitable so at some point everyone will just move to it, or be forced to because new apps may only run in Win 10 environment.
Similar to when Cakewalk's first Sonar would ONLY run in Win XP that eventually forced me (two+ years later) from Win 98 to Win XP. Took me longer than that to go from XP to 7 (Skipping vista).
I installed Win 10 Tech Preview for a non-music related heads-up on compatibility with older non-music HW (SCSI, RS-232, and IEEE 1394) and some propriety SW.
I would say simply "stay tuned" since it seems some here (and at other forums) have already started the move to Win 10 so they will be the real source of pluses and minuses.
I will be waiting for a while before diving in to Win 10 for personal use and maybe even longer for consultant (non-music) use.
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Right. All this angst is standard procedure on the first day of a new OS release. There are good people here who I trust and I'll wait for their guinea pig reports. Even though I'm planning on upgrading my machine and getting Win 10 I'm certainly not doing it this weekend.
And, there's no doubt in my mind that this will all work out. The early reports I've read concerning digital audio sound pretty good.
After 8 came out Cakewalk did a bunch of testing with Sonar around 3-4 years ago and said it was killer for DAW work. Faster and better than 7. A lot of us with 7 didn't upgrade to 8 because it was well, 8. And 10 seems to be that much better than 8. Sounds like the real deal to me but we'll see.
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SO I read another post on this forum, where Ryzard is stating that Cubase is having serious issues, and not just one issue. Quicktime too. Steinberg are advising Not to upgrade at present.
Funny, my machine passed all applications for compatibility tests, using the win ten compatibility checker.
Or maybe not so funny....
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If you right click on the pesky little win 10 icon on the bottom right of desktop, then you can find a compatibility checker by hitting the 'hamburger' menu icon (three blue lateral lines). But is it trustworthy, muso friendly?
And people call me paranoid  Z
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http://www.nature.com/news/does-evolutionary-theory-need-a-rethink-1.16080Seems Microsoft want access to your emails and personal data "“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to […] protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services.” Z
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"“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to […] protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services.”
I said NO to all those items. Just be sure to select "customize", versus "quick" setup. So I upgraded last night. I could see that my computer had already downloaded the upgraded (based on the hidden $WINDOWS.~BT". However, I had also downloaded the ISO file, which I burned to a DVD and used it instead. There were a few interesting glitches, but in the end it seemed to work. I'll go into details later, but it looks like I have my laptop upgraded now and the basically seems to work. My computer says Windows is activated and I never had to log into Microsoft to do it (I know this, because I logged in using a local account). Default MIDI seemed to be a problem, but I'll take a look at that later. All the apps seem to be there as they were under Windows 7; now to launch them and see that they still work. I'll post back later.
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Default MIDI seemed to be a problem, but I'll take a look at that later.
You lost me here. Windows has MIDI? As in "eliminates your interface unit"? Didn't Windows always have default midi with a generic vanilla synthesizer to play .mid files? (They always sounded like just beeps and boops, but it played them.)
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I think he means setting your default midi device. As for beeps and bloops, hasn't there always been the wavetable synth that PG converted into the Coyote wavetable? It's a full GM instrument set, not just sound effects.
BTW, like your new look man. What happened, your new lady getting on you? :>)
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I suspect that with MS is just changing with the times. I don't know how long W10 will be free, but from what I read most often is that, like Google/Android they figured they can make more money from commissions on the app store and selling your info to advertisers than they can with constant upgrades.
I guess they figure that Linux made a dent, Google/Android is doing well, and it's just a matter of time when the OS isn't the killer app anymore. So by keeping you in the MS family by giving away W10, they can sell you things in the Windows store, sell your personal data like Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. already do, and make the profit under the table instead of above board.
Now that is all conjecture, and there are some articles I've read that disagree, but this is what I read most often.
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I could be wrong, but I suspect they will keep Windows at least subscription-free. That doesn't mean you won't have to buy your initial license in the future for your computer. But since the O/S is necessary to use the computer in the first place, people will not be happy to find their computer won't work at all unless they pay a subscription. Of course, the free offer is just for one year (but may be extended), and then after that, folks will just have to pay for a copy if they want to upgrade. Of course, if you buy a new computer, it will just come with it.
They will make their money by selling the licenses to system builders, and support services to business and government accounts, as well as the app store, cloud storage, etc. And I imagine (especially for businesses and government accounts), they make a bunch of money selling Microsoft Office products.
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BTW, like your new look man. What happened, your new lady getting on you? :>) New lady is already in the rear view. Just not a great match in the long haul. That pic was taken on the way out back about February.
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