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So, I upgraded to Windows 10 on my laptop. I used the downloaded ISO file and created a DVD. I knew to get the free upgrade, you had to do an in place upgrade first. Then, supposedly, after you do that, you can do a clean install if you want to.
I started the upgrade by running SETUP on the DVD. It started the process, and then ran a good while analyzing my system and figuring out what to do. I ultimately went to bed. When I woke up, it was at a screen asking for my product ID. Since I didn't have a Windows 10 product ID (your v7 or 8.0/8.1 is not your Windows 10 ID), I clicked skip (which I had read you could do). It then said, I needed to remove my media and reboot. I removed the media and clicked OK, and it just ended back up asking for my product ID again, but told me there was no media.
There was no button or selection to reboot, so I just held down the on/off button and shut the system down. I brought it back up (without the DVD in the drive), and the upgrade continued. I got to a screen then that said something like "Upgrade this PC". I said yes, and then went off and did other things. Came back about an hour later and I had Windows 10 on my desktop.
I checked and it said it was activated (although it never asked me to log into my Microsoft account and the account I logged in with on the computer was local account).
So far everything I've tried seems to work except if you select MIDI mapper. That is no longer available. You have to select the Microsoft GS Wavetable explicitly if you want it.
Otherwise, all my FastTrack Pro seems to work well, and I'm assuming it kept my Win7 drivers from the upgrade. My fingerprint reader works and so far my apps all seem to launch okay.
I did have some issues with my Steinberg USB key, but I just ran the newer eLicenser software and it seems to be okay now.
Windows 10 has the new start menu, which combines the Windows 7 start menu and Windows 8 start screen, however, I still prefer the Windows 7, so I downloaded StarDock's Start10 utility, which brings back the Windows 7 start menu, but still gives you access to the Windows 10 start menu (I already had a license to use StarDock products, so it didn't cost me anything).
One thing I did notice is that it didn't keep all my file and application associations intact, and I've also had to set some applications to "run as administrator", which I didn't before.
Don't know if I'm completely sold on it yet, but I'll work with it for a few days, and as long as everything works, I'll upgrade my desktop too.
But so far so good (as best I can tell).
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Thanks John for the first guinea pig report. Your world didn't end, how about that?
It sounds like this is simpler than what I posted earlier although it's interesting you had to fake out the system to get past the product ID thing. No need to get an SSD yet, just upgrade what I have now, then do a clean install which I want, then later I can clone that and transfer to an SSD?
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Just installed Win 10 on my laptop. Played around with BIAB for the last hour and have not encountered any glitches yet. I did have to re-set the count-in. I use it silent with lead-in metronome. Had to re-generate and freeze a few songs that had slash chords. BIAB wasn't playing the right bass note. So far, so good. Forums and G-Mail seem to be working like they should. Modern Jazz Pianist is working fine. Will report any glitches if they come up. Ray
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The good thing about the start menu in windows 7 is you can go into it, find what you want and send shortcut to desktop, I do that all the time.
Of course its possible to do that on other versions but I found windows 7 far better.
In my opinion no one should have to install a third party piece of software to make the start menu more manageable, seems like Microsoft hasn't learned that yet.
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Thanks John for the first guinea pig report. Your world didn't end, how about that?
It sounds like this is simpler than what I posted earlier although it's interesting you had to fake out the system to get past the product ID thing. No need to get an SSD yet, just upgrade what I have now, then do a clean install which I want, then later I can clone that and transfer to an SSD?
Bob What I have found as regards biab, is that sampletank and amplitube need to be reauthorised again if even cloned to a different drive. Seems they must take some id info from drive. Musiclover
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My SampkeTank loded fine after the upgrade. Haven't tried Amplitube yet.
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Good to know the fast track pro will work ok John.
As regards sampletank needing to be reactivated in my experience only happens should you move for example acronis image of a drive to a different drive, when I installed the SSD recently and used the acronis image from my old HDD it then needed to be reactivated as did amplitube.
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Yes, if you switch to an SSD, that will happen. I think IK-Multimedia uses disk signature, rather than processor signature to determine changes
If you go from physical drive to physical drive, you can apply the same disk signature, but my experience has also born out that going to an SSD does not preserve that.
As I understand it, Windows 10 uses processor signature, so you should be okay there if you change disks or other peripherals in the future.
Of course, IK gives you a bunch of authorizations anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. And if you don't use them up to quickly, they'll even reset them for you over time.
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Thanks guys, sounds like this should be relatively easy. From what I'm reading here and other sources it seems to be going pretty well for everybody.
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How about sharing your wifi password? Did you deselect that option of Wi-Fi Sense?
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Thanks for the Wi Fi Sense tip. I never saw that all. One thing un-related to Wi Fi, I find I'm having to turn the number lock key on every time I open the laptop. Never had to do that before.
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The NumLock key can be controlled by a Registry hack, which is likely why it changed with the OS upgrade, but you should also be able to set it in the BIOS.
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Man, what a reminder this thread is of why I switched to Apple in 2011 after 30 years of MS. For me Apple turned "plug and pray" into "plug and play." Apple is assuredly not perfect but I really like their cloistered world where on mobile devices, laptops and desktops OS new versions/updates and app updates are seamless. I've gone through two new OS's and yet to experience a driver issue or any issue for that manner. No bombs away on installations, no cryptic messages and a very short turnaround time. I guess the software, firmware and hardware being under one company umbrella helps.
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There is a whole bunch of data Microsoft starts to collect from your usage, storing, using it, and selling it. A simple search with a search engine that also spies: https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=windows+10+shares+passwordresults in a lot of articles how to avoid Microsoft's data mining for the most part.
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Every one of these posts that go on the anti Micro$oft rant somewhere includes "and they sell your data". I probably hate Micro$oft more than anybody you know, but someone needs to give me absolute proof that Micro$oft is selling anything. What data is it you say they are selling? I have no Micro$oft email accounts, I do not provide my correct address (not even city and state), and I use the OS only, not MSIE. What do you think they are gathering and selling, and what proof do you have? Note I asked for proof, not opinion or hearsay. Proof.
Anybody?
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I just read 5 articles about this Wi-Fi Sense. Choose your words carefully as you discuss. It does not share your actual password. It shares an encrypted copy of it to allow people to access your network, and this is key, for internet access only.
So if your password is RealBandIsGreat, a user coming into range does not know your password is RealBandIsGreat. It only grabs access to the internet, and NOT to your clients on your network.
That being said, I think it is a heinous intrusion and another reason why I will hate Micro$oft forever. And it is not even the feature itself that gets the short hairs on my neck to stand up. It's the fact that they continue to shove things down our throat with the default set to ON. Ethical companies would include a text document that explains "If you want this on, this is how you do it." Unethical companies, like Micro$oft, don't even tell you it's there.
I REALLY hate Micro$oft and Bill Gates.
I think it is becoming Mac time here at Casa del Eastside.
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We are lucky to have you here with your IT experience, Eddie.
With all possible affection, your avatar is scary! I much prefer the "gentle" you in the signature photo. Just a thought.
Hey, that cornet I bought from you inspired me to get a pro horn from Schilke, and I would never have done that without experiencing yours first. Your horn lives at my cabin for the times when I don't bring anything else with me. It's very handy. The thing is built more like a tank than any current horn, or any pro horn. I think I could use it to jack up my car if need be...
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Choose your words carefully as you discuss. It does not share your actual password. It shares an encrypted copy of it to allow people to access your network, and this is key, for internet access only. I know that, there are many statements about the encrypted access data. I dislike that I have to opt out. I dislike that somebody tells "everybody" else: "Feel free to use it." I pay for my bandwidth and the selfish me wants to use it exclusively. Just like I don't put my car keys outside on the gate for everybody's use. My LAN has a whitelist of allowed devices, identified by their MAC address. If I have not listed the notebook or smartphone of somebody else, sorry, no access except via the guest access port with some limited privileges.
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With all possible affection, your avatar is scary! I much prefer the "gentle" you in the signature photo. Just a thought.
Hey, that cornet I bought from you inspired me to get a pro horn from Schilke, and I would never have done that without experiencing yours first. Your horn lives at my cabin for the times when I don't bring anything else with me. It's very handy. The thing is built more like a tank than any current horn, or any pro horn. I think I could use it to jack up my car if need be...
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Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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