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It appears that Windows 10 is not as free as expected: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/05/windows-10-charging/But then, who really expected that this company gives away its "flagship"?
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I've installed Win 10 Home this morning in about 40 minutes. Everything went well and everything is working. The only issue I had was Microsoft Money 2007, as the program was looking for components of the IE version 6. That was easily fixed by a registry value change. As far as DVD player is concerned, this VLC player works and is free: http://www.videolan.org/index.htmlCould care less about playing Solitaire, etc ...  My DAW programs are working, so is BIAB/RB. Even the latest driver for Win 8.1 for my AKAI EIE Pro USB sound interface works beautifully with Windows 10. The sound seems even better as it was with Win 8.1. I can take the volume on the unit down quite a bit in W10 compare to W8.1. All in all, my machine is running smoothly and very fast. At least to me, it seems the entire system runs a lot quicker. I tested all of my applications. No problems at all. Maybe, I just got lucky 
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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Folks running older computers, and seems especially Windows 7 over four to five years old are having problems big time. 28 pages of black screen freeze faults when trying to install Windows 10 here :- http://www.tenforums.com/installation-setup/9249-windows-10-install-stuck-black-screen-without-cursor-anything.htmlIf you haven't made a full back up such as a complete image to an external hard drive, then you are stuck as nothing works and you cannot roll back. It happened on my laptop. Thankfully I maintain image backups, so could revert back using the image.
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Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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I think the issue is that if you black screen and can't even boot into Windows, then you won't be able to roll back, because you can't even get to the screen to tell Windows to do so.
I made sure I had a clean image before I started my upgrade. Luckily, I didn't have to use it.
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Folks running older computers, and seems especially Windows 7 over four to five years old are having problems big time.
28 pages of black screen freeze faults when trying to install Windows 10 here :- I don't know Nev, this is one of those forums I look at for 30 seconds, everybody seems like numbnut idiots and I move on. The first 4 or 5 posts they're saying they bailed after an hour or two. I wouldn't worry about it until it gets to like 3-4 hours or so. These are the kinds of guys who left a disc in the drive, or their sister plugged in a flash drive while it's trying to upgrade or whatever else they're not telling us. I only pay attention to big well run tech forums with pro's who have a clue and this forum where I've figured out who knows what they're doing and who doesn't. Bob
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Exactly, Bob. As I recall, after the first reboot during the installation process, the screen WAS black for a couple of minutes. I think, people just panic and thought that their computers 'hung'. My machine is not that new anymore either. Patience is not everyone's virtue.
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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I've been "playing" with Win10 since last Sat and have had no problems with BIAB. I thought I had a Win10 glitch which turned out to be an existing BIAB problem. In the help menu I can't type anything in the search box but I can scroll through the index.
Asus Q500A i7 Win 10 64 bit 8GB ram 750 HD 15.5" touch screen, BIAB 2017, Casio PX 5s, Xw P1, Center Point Stereo SS V3 and EWI 4000s.
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Also http://www.paragon-software.com/landing-pages/2015/virtualization-manager-win10/index.htmlGo Virtual 2015 allows you to create a virtual clone of your existing Windows system – including all of its applications and settings – in just a few clicks. This clone lets you run new systems in a virtual environment such as Oracle VirtualBox or VMware Player (or even in Linux environments) and use them virtually the same as ever. This way, you can be on the safe side and access the applications you need, even if they don’t (yet) run perfectly on your new Windows 10 system.
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First update your virus/malware apps and run a scan.
Since you should be running backup software anyway, get backup software that does disk imaging. Then (1) make a new, clean disk image (not an incremental) on a removable drive and (2) make sure your rescue-boot drive works.
Then if Win10 doesn't work I believe you can just go back to your disk image with no problem.
And don't expect everything to be free. For years, MS has been putting add-on software companies out of business by incorporating them into Windows. Many of the apps really didn't belong in the OS. But it gave users a reason to upgrade and stay inside the Windows ecosystem.
I suspect many, like solitaire, will no longer be free (I got tired or that in the 1990s after I won a couple of times). They will be ad supported or pay to remove the ads. Others will no longer be part of Windows, but you can buy them at the Windows store where MS will make a commission.
MS saw google/iOS and realized that when others are giving away the OS, MS is going to lose market share by selling theirs.
They also looked at how much money Google and Apple were making doing three things (1) making a commission from store sales (2) making a commission from ads and (3) selling your personal information to marketers.
So as they saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them ... and Microsoft joined them.
It's a whole new world for MS, and you have to give them credit for seeing the handwriting on the wall and changing course mid-stream.
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"Reporting in. Overall the Win 7 x64 to Win 10 x64 went pretty smooth.
I took the opportunity to replace the fixed boot drive to a SSD & add an extra 240GB SSD for libraries at the same time.
I made an image of the Win 7 boot disk & then swapped out the drives, restored the image to the new SSD drive, then proceeded with the Win 10 update.
No issues with the M-AUDIO Profire 610 connected to a VIA firewire card, yet.
Cubase Pro 8.10 launched with only 1 issue, any MIDI input devices set to DirectMusic had to be reactivated & made visible in the device Manager.
Kontakt 4 & my installed libraries, Play x64 (Word Builder in EWQL Symphonic Choirs), MOTU Ethno & UVI based Moto Symphnic Instrument, BDF2, Ivory II, NI Guitar Rig 4 and RealGuitar all performed with no issues in both x64 standalone & as VSTs in Cubase.
Slight issue with MAGIX/Independence Pro finding .aif files for the former Yellow Tools Majestic & Candy, still troubleshooting this.
Slight display issue in RealStrat, cosmetic only, the product performed without issue. Have to check for an update to the product.
All external hardware is performing without issue: M-AUDIO Keystation Pro 88, M-AUDIO Axiom Air 49, a few Steinberg CMC controllers, Korg PadKontrol, Frontier AlphaTrack.
Still doing some additional testing, but so far so good."
The above is a report from a member of the Keyboard Forum. So, everyone's experience is not the same. It looks like the majority of the reports that I've read have been favorable and music apps are OK with very few but fixable glitches. Ray
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Good to hear Ray. I hear some people are getting on fine with Cubase, others have MIDI timing issues. I am sure there will be an update from Steinberg some time quickly anyways
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