When I right-click on a track as directed, I can see "Select Hi-Q midi synth patch..." But when I select a patch I get a message saying SampleTank DXi is not installed!
Well while I am on a role and I don't want to keep you hangin. But, I don't have an answer for you other than I know this can be difficult/tricky - but doable. I had it all working nicely at the beginning, but then I install ST3 and things got confused (or maybe it was me).
Otherwise, my workflow does not use ST in BIAB. I generally transfer the midi to Reaper where ST3 works like a charm.
You have to discover "your workflow" to keep things moving smoothly, Good luck.
The conclusion was "don't load the Dxi", you need to be using the VST.dll
Last edited by jazzmandan; 08/10/1503:42 AM.
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Yes, when you have control over the synth to use (i.e., when YOU are selecting what soft synth to use and you want to use SampleTank, then use ST's VSTi not its DXi - at least within BIAB). HOWEVER, the default for Hi-Q sounds is the SampleTank DXi - you can't (easily) control which ST plug-in (VSTi or DXi) is called up.
Note, if/when you install IK's ST 2.5 (free or full) separately, I mean separate from a BIAB install, it installs both the DXi and the VSTi.
When you install the FULL BIAB it also installs the ST 2.5 DXi (it's a default check box item doing full install unless you unchecked it?)
Good luck Larry
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I think I'm getting closer to the heart of the problem.
As some will recall, I have installed two sets of Windows on my hd.
One on c: (regular Windows) and one on f: drive (Music Windows).
I booted into my f: drive which is dedicated to just Music Apps. I did a another setup of BIAB and this time chose to install the SampleTank plugin (plus some others).
Digging around I noticed that the IK Sampletank folder ended up on c: drive !!!
BIAB asked me to explicitly state where my installation was going to go (for 4 parts of the program).
Since I am installing to an external hd (i: drive) I made the change to this.
However BIAB wasn't smart enough to figure out that I had booted from f: drive, and installed SampleTank to c: drive.
Does BIAB see it at all? When you go into Midi and you have the option to pick which DXi do you see ST at all? In mine I was able to select SampleTank then I had to click the PREFS button and repoint BIAB to where ST was on my drive. PREFs is the button to the left of the Large 2.5.
Does BIAB see it at all? When you go into Midi and you have the option to pick which DXi do you see ST at all? In mine I was able to select SampleTank then I had to click the PREFS button and repoint BIAB to where ST was on my drive. PREFs is the button to the left of the Large 2.5.
I have been making steady progress with this. I'm not where I want to be exactly, but a lot closer than I was a few hours ago. I can now see ST inside BIAB!
You know the expression, "It worked right out of the box."?
If only the same was true with BIAB.
The Band is great inside the box, but try and take it out and that's when you'll encounter all kinds of problems!
Let me give you just one example...
Error: No Hi-Q ST Instrument at F: Prog\IK \ST 2.5\Instrum\BIAB\BIAB
"Solution is to move BIAB instrument folder from here: F: prog\IK\ST 2.5\Instrum\BIAB to here: F: prog\IK\ST 2.5\Instrum\BIAB\BIAB"
That was the type of error I was getting and I used the live help and they pointed out what I was saying about the PREF button. You need to click that then use the browse function to browse to your ST installations Instruments folder. Once you do that then BIAB will be able to access ST. Hope that makes sense. If not I have found that the live help for BIAB is really pretty good.
You really need to check out that pref button as it resolved my problem. I have my ST on my D drive and BIAB on an external and it works fine now that I have BIAB pointed to the correct place. You have to open BIAB as administrator then midi->midi driver set up then VST/DXI synth settings then see if ST appears as one of your choices.....if it doesn't then BIAB doesn't see it at all on your computer. If it does then if you select SampleTank then you can use the pref button to point BIAB to exactly where your installation of ST resides. Hope this helps.
You really need to check out that pref button as it resolved my problem. I have my ST on my D drive and BIAB on an external and it works fine now that I have BIAB pointed to the correct place. ... If it does then if you select SampleTank then you can use the pref button to point BIAB to exactly where your installation of ST resides. Hope this helps.
When you talk about the Pref button, which button are you talking about specifically? BIAB's preferences or ST's?
BTW I got ST to show up in BIAB and according to PG Music it is now working properly!
When the ST interface is opened up in BIAB I see a pop-up telling me:
"You have 9 days left until ST must be authorized"
Is the authorization necessary? What happens after 9 days?
When I clicked on the Start/Programs/IK Multimedia/Authorization Manager
I was taken to a step by step author. process. At step two it said I needed to upgrade something. When it tried to open my browser and upgrade, nothing happened.
Even if you are using the free version of the SampleTank that you get from PG-Music, software, you still need to authorize the software. You have to get your authorization number from the IK web site. When you register on the site you get access to "your area", where you can get all your authorization numbers and download links.
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You will have to update your Authorization Manager (we all did). Oh boy, get ready for some more fun...
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The pref button is to the left of the big 2.5 in the red ST screen it is at bottom of the buttons. It will allow you to browse to wherever your SampleTank is installed. I tried to added pictures to help.
The pref button is to the left of the big 2.5 in the red ST screen it is at bottom of the buttons. It will allow you to browse to wherever your SampleTank is installed. I tried to added pictures to help.
OK thanks pedwards!
That is the screen I thought you were talking about. Because the box is so small I can't see the entire list of folders but I'll assume it is correct.
You will have to update your Authorization Manager (we all did). Oh boy, get ready for some more fun...
Thanks John and Dan! I'm really looking forward to more fun and adventures!
I found it interesting when a PG tech guy told me that if I limited my use of ST samples to the lists that BIAB provides (not bring up the ST red interface) I could still use all the ST samples and not have to bother going through the authorization process.
Since I have a full version of SampleTank that is registered I will probably use that.....but when you select find a HiQ sound it is pretty much going to use the BIAB sounds. I have to find out which channel the instrument is using and then load that sound in my full version of ST manually. So no I haven't tried it.
Doesnt all this messing about tell PG that there is something inherently wrong with the way ST installs/ works within BIAB and that a better solution needs to be found - a program within BIAB perhaps that auto installs it. Why, for goodness sake, when I buy BIAB with ST in it should I need to go to a third party to get authorisation or it wont work? And worse, why is it such a mess to get working. If PG dont believe me - go look at the number of threads where folks cant get it to work. I'm a Musician - thats why I bought BIAB - NOT a computer Programmer. Biabguy - I hope you are successful. Me? I gave up on it last year and dont bother with it now.
Last edited by sixchannel; 08/16/1510:25 AM.
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