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If you do then take the usual precautions we all talk about here. If you don't then throw away your phone, your computer, your tablet, your credit and debit cards, online banking, anything that is connected to the internet and just go back to the 70's. No email, no social media, no Google, no streaming anything, no GPS, no PG forum, nothing.
Especially no PG Forum!!! 
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Apple watches you, Twitter watches you, Google watches you, LinkedIn watches you, Facebook watches you. If it's free, you are not the customer, you are the product.
So here is a little poem I wrote © substitute any of the above.
ODE TO FACEBOOK
Oh Facebook how are you today?
I visit you most every day
And everything I do or say
you put into my dossier
Where was I born? what was my school?
Enter your job, be very cool
You even know my family
and everything that's dear to me
My information's gold to you
it sells to stores and spammers too
If I click "like" or I repost
your clients will dig me the most
I click an ad merely to look?
the ad man pulls to set the hook
It'll be in my e-mail today
and web page ads, day after day
And It'll waste, my precious time
and you'll receive another dime
I wouldn't mind the money you make
if a commission I could take
I'd like to get twenty percent
but you don't offer one red cent
So Facebook please let's make a deal
just cut me in, no need to steal
I'll finish my profile if you do
and we will profit, both me and you
Insights and incites by Notes
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Richard, it's always good to be security minded. You make excellent points. Like I mentioned, you can turn on or off any of these features. Most of mine are Off. I suspect you can turn just about everything Off. The 'default' option doesn't do this, but custom settings does. HTH
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Great, thanks for headsup. I turned a lot of this stuff off on my wifes new install of Win10.
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Apple watches you, Twitter watches you, Google watches you, LinkedIn watches you, Facebook watches you. If it's free, you are not the customer, you are the product.
Great little ditty there Bob, and never a more true word was said.... Trev
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Eddie is right on. I just read that thread on Bleeping Computer and to me the key item is this: "It is a technical preview, so people are supposed to be testing stuff on it..." It sounds to me like this is all about the beta that has been out for some time now not the final release version. If this keylogger is still there now then I'm sure MS has been hearing about it and will respond. Before I posted this I decided to do a fast search and found this from last October that makes my point: http://lifehacker.com/windows-10s-keylogger-fiasco-has-been-blown-out-of-pr-1642931793Got interrupted, here's a current article from ZDnet: http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers/First, this is a great overall article explaining in detail how to install, how it works, all that stuff. Plus scroll down to near the bottom and there's the question of the day, "Does Win 10 include a keylogger?" Answer, NO. Chill out guys. Bob
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There are times when I have absolutely no problem with being wrong. This is one of those times. I'm willing to look a little foolish in the interest of protecting the community.
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There are times when I have absolutely no problem with being wrong. This is one of those times. I'm willing to look a little foolish in the interest of protecting the community. Hey Richard, no one's looking anything but very careful here. And that's the best option, for sure! Trev
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I certainly have no problem at all with pointing stuff out that might help others but when it comes to something as big as this, I do a few Google searches first.
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And google is watching you, too  Supposedly DuckDuckGo, ixquick, and StartPage do not. StartPage is supposed to give google results but through a European proxy. Insights and incites by Notes
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And google is watching you, too Supposedly DuckDuckGo, ixquick, and StartPage do not. StartPage is supposed to give google results but through a European proxy. Insights and incites by Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
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Add Amazon to the list of sites that watch you.
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When I do a search for an item on a website and maybe a day later on a totally different site and an advert pops up at the side with the same or similar item, then someone is indeed watching me. I have noticed this has got particularly bad of late.
And that's on windows 7 with no spyware or malware on board.
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It's called 'remarketing' and is amazingly easy to do .. if you know how.
Go to a commercial site once, and you'll see the ads pop up on other random sites.
The concept is simple; you showed interest in the product, so nudging you occasionally is not out of the question.
They don't care what other sites you visit, or look at your browsing history or 'track you'. Like I said it's pretty simple.
You come to the site. You get a 'cookie'. This cookie lets the ad provider know you've been to the site, so a related ad is a 'preferable' ad, as opposed to a 'random' ad. Thus you get the related ad. It feels like tracking, but it has a line in the sand when done by the rules.
Clear your cookies or browsing history and it will go away (if done ethically).
I can show you the code that does it, and show you the actual 'cookie' if you want.
The cookie can be set to expire in anywhere from 30 to 120 days usually. Depending on the market, the expiration is up to the programmer/marketing team of the site you visited. If you don't want them either turn them off or don't visit sites that use them!
/Europe has different rules than US on the use of cookies, so if you are in US it will likely be more prevalent. /
Trust me; they don't care what other sites you visit, but if you show interest in their product it seems logical to use the ad systems to remind you and possibly prompt a sale. It's really nothing more than that.
They don't know 'who' you are, or what other sites you visited. They simply know you came to their site, got a cookie, and since they pay for ads, their ad gets displayed with preferential priority. It's really a win/win if you think about it. You get ads related to things you're interested in, and they get more focused ad placement.
Like I said, they aren't really 'tracking you' like some people think.
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The 'how it works' side is pretty simple, but running a campaign with good ROI can be pretty involved from the other side. Knowing which sites to pay for and excluding others, controlling the budget (etc.) takes a lot of thought/effort. I certainly didn't mean to downplay the work of a good retargeting/remarketing campaign. I was simply commenting on the technology and use in my above post .. you are not being 'tracked' in the sense some people think they are.
Yes, Google tracks you, since they offer the AdSense program, but again not the way some people assume.
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Again guys this is simply another example of something that can get blown all out of proportion. Rharv is right just like Eddie is also right.
Whenever I look up anything online from the price of a new Yamaha mixer to a storage shed for the backyard which I just did, an ad for that same product pops up in the margin of the CNN or Fox News websites. So what? Seriously SO WHAT? No problemo guys, please. Stop with all the "they're watching us we're all gonna die" conspiracy theories.
Yes, I'm sure there are a few illegal exceptions but your car can get hit by a meteor in the driveway too or you can get hit in the head by a fish sucked up from the bay by a waterspout.
Just clear the cookies in your browser every few days if it really bugs you. The only reason I don't is some cookies are for remembering login info for certain sites and I don't want to go through the login dance every time I go there.
Edit. Since my soapbox hasn't collapsed yet, one more thing. How much do you worriers want to pay for all these websites? As in subscription fees. You think these sites don't cost big bucks to run? Without all these ad's they either would not exist or we would be paying for them probably similar to our cable TV. We'd have all these bundles like so much for column A, so much for column B.
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Just clear the cookies in your browser every few days if it really bugs you. The only reason I don't is some cookies are for remembering login info for certain sites and I don't want to go through the login dance every time I go there.
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can do that for you. You can select which cookies are here to stay.
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...or you can get hit in the head by a fish sucked up from the bay by a waterspout. Sharknado 3 ..oh hell no.
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Ccleaner can do that for you. You can select which cookies are here to stay. Good tool! I use that one too.
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...or you can get hit in the head by a fish sucked up from the bay by a waterspout. Sharknado 3 ..oh hell no. Off subject to the thread, but responding to Steve. I've seen all 3 ... #2 is the best as far as cheesy goes 
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Here is my take on all this, and it's changed recently.
There is NOTHING you can really do about all this.
If someone wants to track you it's easy. I recently watched a BBC program where using a free and feely available app you could, on a phone, track and record anyone's calls, take pics of them without them knowing, log their location.
Privacy? HUH!!! Anyone that knows your zip/postcode knows where you live to within a few houses.
Ensuring that your machine's are set up for privacy? You must be joking. I recently told my Android to stop logging my location - it/something switched it back on. It can even be done by triangulation software that does not need location switched on.
We all give off unique identifiers, there is nothing you can do about this. You take a certain shoe size, walk a certain way, have certain habits and customs. Machine's are nearly ready to pick this up. For example, how long until in the shopping mall, the software monitoring the cameras, bleeps when a body acts in a suspicious way? It's probably here, and how can such software be used 'creatively'?
In order to become more 'intelligent', machines MUST start learning about the world and the way it operates, and that means they must learn more about YOU baby!
Even if you downed all tools and walked around in a black cloak, there is NOTHING that you, or even Bill Gates can do to stop this remorseless avalanche of mass observation, its here and it's staying.
So, as Dylan says....
"Just lay there by the Juniper, while the sun is high....
As Batman said: "I laugh in the face of adversity!
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