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#312379 10/01/15 02:09 AM
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So I loaded the ozone 6 trial -- and I imported a song.

Now I just want to run through the presets ... and I don't see anywhere to set the presets. Either for the whole tune or the individual modules. It seems like that would be right upfront.

OK, it is supposed to be easily available, but if I close the preset window after startup there is no way to get it back. It is not present anywhere and ctrl-P doesn't bring it up. Plus I can't even resize the ozone window! I've tried 32-bit and 64-bit ozone.

I am not sure if my windows 7 laptop has the horsepower to run ozone (although it does seem a bit smoother if I turn off the wi-fi and virus stuff). Oh well, nothing is ever easy!



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Kevin,

Firstly: I've just sent you a private message with links to wavs that I've created for "Her Weekend" after running the file through Ozone.


In relation to your above image, there are aspects of Ozone that are not showing. Have you loaded it as a VST or is this standalone? Also what DAW do you use?

The presets are found by clicking on the window I've highlighted below (#1). It's also possible to scroll through them using the arrows I've labelled #2.



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I found out that "P" brings up the overall preset manager and each tool has its own preset that I can get to. If you notice, the bottom of my screen does not show what is in the bottom of your picture (I stop at the plugin row of pictures) and I can't scroll down or maximize the window!! I'll have to investigate that.

I am downloading your samples now! Thanks!!!


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In case this is useful information...

I have Ozone (VST) loaded as an FX on the master volume in Reaper. This means the mixed sound goes through it before it gets to the speakers.


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I am using the standalone version:

Originally Posted By: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/mixing-mastering/ozone/specs/
Minimum screen resolution:
Plug-in: 1,159 X 614
Standalone application: 1,166 X 827

I'll have to check my laptop out.


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a thought... have you tried dragging the edges of window in?

I've had a couple of programs that wouldn't load properly and refused to engage scroll bars when loaded. When I dragged the right edge of the window in (making the window smaller), though, a bottom scroll bar was created. I managed to obtain a side scroll bar by dragging the bottom of the window up.


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Is it possibly a limitation of the trial version?


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Is it possibly a limitation of the trial version?


Exactly what I was going to say. Thanks Matt.




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That would be an odd limitation to program in (ha, ha). I looked around and I saw this being seen in a purchased version also.

By the way, Here are the first ~15 seconds of three ozone examples and my original put back to back. I mixed up the order so I could only tell which was which by looking at the sonar file.

This is Her Weekend @ Dropbox (11mb, 1:07 long)



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The trial is not limited.

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Kemmrich, I have the full version of Ozone 6 and did some window sizing checks for you.

As stand-alone app there was no ability to resize the window.

When I launched it as a VST from Adobe Audition, I could resize the main window but the contents within the window did not change size.

I feel the quality of the sound is very good. The minor "Windows" issues don't seem to be a big deal after using it a while.

I was using it to master some old VHS cassette live band recordings.

I used this preset a lot with good results: Heavy-->Thick Midrange. I received complements for bringing out guitars on the recordings, ie Midrange, LOL.




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I can see the whole screen as a plugin, so that's good for the trial.

However, the standalone mode seems like the way I would want to do a whole album. Just plop all tracks in their and switch back and forth to get everything coherent.

No big deal for now. I'll have to wait for that new computer for the standalone mode!

For the next week or so, I will try and ozone 3 tunes and set up an A-B test between my originals and the new ozone tracks. Of course, there is the very high possibility that my ozoned tracks won't be the best they can be due to my inexperience with the tool.

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"Ozone 7 is coming! We are putting the finishing touches on Ozone 7 and Ozone 7 Advanced. Purchase either version of Ozone 6 today and when Ozone 7 is released in November we'll send you a free upgrade."

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I did an ozone test -- doesn't sound too different to me (ha, ha). It is going to take awhile to get the hang of it!

*** deleted the test, needs more work. Ozone'd Weekend

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Was it actually "in the song"? The 2 versions actually sounded pretty similar to me as well. Of course, it could have been a subtle preset or it might not have been in the mix.... I didn't take the time to copy both versions and compare closely. There sounds like a very slight difference.... ozoned being slightly warmer.

I place Ozone in the master buss of my DAW. With a simple click I can turn it on and off to A/B the mix with and without it.

Some of the custom presets I have.... oh heck yes.... you know when those things are on. It's like the difference between black and white and color.....


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Yes, Ozone 7 is coming. Having Dynamic EQ moved to the standard version is tempting. However, I've used Ozone for ten years and I prefer Ozone 5 over 6. From comments in the Cakewalk forums (SONAR), it seems I'm not alone.

How does this observation relate to this thread? The main difference in version 6 was an over-reliance on presets. I'll be watching closely to see what the interface looks like in 7.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Was it actually "in the song"? The 2 versions actually sounded pretty similar to me as well. Of course, it could have been a subtle preset or it might not have been in the mix....
I think so (ha, ha). I removed all the wave plugins from the master buss and exported the wav file. I then created a new project, brought in that wav file and then loaded up ozone and started tinkering. It is not surprising that my first try didn't make much of a difference -- the wav plugins should be pretty decent. (Although I did notice that if I just lower the volume on my waves version, it is not that much different than the raw mix).

Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Some of the custom presets I have.... oh heck yes.... you know when those things are on. It's like the difference between black and white and color.....
Can you export custom presets and then share them with other ozone users? I see that they have mastering presets by Greg Calbi that they are giving away.


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Get me that sheen preset!!!!

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Did another try of Weekend starting with one of Greg Calbi's presets. I must say that I am not getting "wowed" by the sounds or "differences" in sounds that I ma getting so far, but I am just going to chalk that up to inexperience with Ozone. ... and I am probably (subconsciously) striving for the waves sound I am getting now (ha, ha)!

I think I'll move on to another song.


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try putting the plug in the master buss FX bin

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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
try putting the plug in the master buss FX bin

Yes, I always have ozone in the master buss (although since I only have one track it might not matter in this case).


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What DAW software are you using again?

Either your hearing is shot or it's not hooked up right. <grin> If you can't hear a difference with EVERY preset, somethings wrong with the flow.
I can't think of a time when a preset made an unnoticeable difference.

What OS on this machine?

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Ha, ha! I just went through and solo'd each module and made big changes to make sure each item (eq, dynamics, exciter, stereo imager and mazimizer) was actually doing something -- and they were.

I was only using the "balanced" presets, the heavy ones seem to do more. If you name me three presets to use I will try each one and export a little mp3 that has a sample of each. Maybe it is my system or install. It is just a simple dell windows 7 laptop.


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Kev, I'm a big Ozone fan and I also own some waves stuff and the waves are no slouch. You probably aren't hearing the huge difference someone would hear who went to Ozone from nothing or from using lessor plugs. I didn't hear a huge difference in Ozone and Final Mix when I first switched except that Ozone to me was "silkier" for lack of a better term. You should hear a very discernable difference among the presets within Ozone itself especially among different genre presets. Within genres the changes in sound from one preset to another can be more subtle.

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Izotope stuff works great for me, you have to play around with presets, etc. after awhile it all comes together, give it time.


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There's times where I don't want a huge difference. O4 will do that too.

But yeah, as Rharv says, a preset usually will make a very noticeable difference.


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Yeah, I'm thinking he may be hearing the dry mixed with the Ozone output somehow .. seems the most likely from the description.


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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Kev, I'm a big Ozone fan and I also own some waves stuff and the waves are no slouch. You probably aren't hearing the huge difference someone would hear who went to Ozone from nothing or from using lessor plugs. ... You should hear a very discernable difference among the presets within Ozone itself especially among different genre presets. Within genres the changes in sound from one preset to another can be more subtle. -- Josie
I noticed that in some videos there were "genre" presets. I wonder if those are gone in ozone 6. Below is a picture of the presets I have.



One thing I noticed is that you can get a more difference in effect if you go from a preset in one group and then jump to a preset in a another group. Inside f one group they are similar. Except for volume sometimes, the limiter isn't limiting hardly at all in some of the presets.


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Here's another quick test with three files. The settings change every 10-12
seconds: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101504714/bupBup_ozoneTest.wav (12.6 mb)

#1: 0:00
#2: 0:10
#3: 0:22
#1: 0:34
#2: 0:46
#3: 0:58


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Yeah, it looks like they've changed to groups instead of genres - I'm still using my old version - I'm used to it so I got Nectar 2 instead of upgrading Ozone. As an aside, I just watched a video with Graham interviewing Peter Hollens - YT star with over a million followers and one of the few who makes his living these days from music. He's still using the same computer and recording software he's had since 2007 so I don't feel too bad about not upgrading. LOL! Whatever works.

Finding a preset you like can be a daunting task with so many choices but once you do you can tweak it to your taste for the song you're working on. Then compare it to your waves and see which one sounds best to you. Ozone is great, but there are people who prefer waves and you may be one of them....

Good luck.

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This may been been mentioned...but O 6 has a really cool feature with the bypass in that you can have it give you the same gain on the processed version and the dry version when you bypass. This is huge in A/Bing. Use the "ear" icon. Sorry I didn't have time to read the whole thread so apologies if this has been mentioned.

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I found out that ozone 6 runs just fine on my vista computer -- with the network and virus stuff working. Plus I can run the screen resolution required to run in standalone mode if I wish.

I went through a song in waves and got it to where I wanted. I then turned the waves stuff off, loaded in the Greg Calbi "High Detail Wide" preset -- and it was quite similar to what I already had (and yes doing bypass allows me to hear the subtle changes that Greg is doing). But, I did a lot less tweaking in Ozone. Of course, I will have to go through each module and tweak them a little bit to see if I can get better. I am beginning to think that if you can hear a large difference between the raw file and the presets (except for volume), then the preset is too much (or the mix is atrocious).

The bottom line: No real conclusions yet. Ozone is tempting at $199 and a free upgrade to ozone 7. All of my waves stuff is 32 bit and one day will be obsolete. Since ozone comes in 32 and 64 bit, it will be good for quite a long time even if I never upgrade again. I have until Nov. 2nd to decide.


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As an aside, many years ago I decided in favor of Ozone instead of Waves because Waves required the use of a dongle for copy protection, or writing to an odd sector on the hard drive. Is that still the case? [Ozone just uses registration numbers.]


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I got the new year's day promotional package of waves from a producer in early 2008 (or so), so it doesn't need a dongle. I do believe waves is still doing that with the iLok system. I would never get that either.

I had the waves stuff for a few years before I even fired it up. A lot of waves plugins has changed, but that old stuff still works.


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It seems like the only module I don't have in waves that is in ozone 6 standard is the harmonic exciter module.

Noel made a good observation on a PM we have going.

For example, my bup bup song is at -9.1db on the master buss with no waves plugins. When I load ozone in and choose a preset, the dynamics module (multiband compressor) probably doesn't even get turned on! The maximizer settings seem to be at -2 or so. Probably not enough to make much of a difference.

How do you handle that? Or what is you effective starting gain on your master buss?


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-9.1 is not terrible. But -9 with which measurement? Average? Peak?


You can adjust the thresholds of the effects in Ozone to suit the piece when needed. And it's easy enough to lower the 'Input' slider on Ozone to compensate also.


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-9db is the peak on master buss (that's all sonar shows there).


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Just a quick question, can you use Ozone live? I'm assuming I could run it as a VST within BIAB, but could you run it over eg a wave file and live vocals. I'm assuming not? I could download it and play I guess.....

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Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

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