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Originally Posted By: J&B

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Hi Kenny and floyd,

This is a great listen - music, lyrics, arrangement, performance. You've both done a terrific job putting it together. I thought that J&B's mathematical expression summarised my thoughts exactly so I'm going to +1 it.

In addition, I'd just like to say that these lyrics are a great lesson in one type of lyric development strategy. Verse 1 which is rich in sense-bound imagery perfectly sets the scene for verse 2 which moves into understanding character. I don't know of any textbook that models this technique better than these lyrics.

Overall.... an outstanding listen in every way.


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Good write.

Had a buddy who drank Miller.


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A nice nostalgic look back. Some really good imagery. I am sorry to report that I have had more than my fair share of Miller's. This was obviously before my taste bud's woke up! Another really good write and a production that is up to the always impeccable standards that floyd sets. I have to admit I listened to this many times before those first two drum fills settled in my mind. I am happy to report I'm good with them now. Kenny, glad you're around. I enjoy your work. Nicely done in all regards. Tom

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To floyd and Bud,

tut tut, advocating drinking and driving whistle grin
When I drank I never drank bottled beers, I preferred beer in a 20 fluid ounce glass (pint) and when miserable I used to shred the little cardboard beer mats laugh

Still a great country song tho', Kenny and floyd, especially LOUD!

Alyn

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Originally Posted By: gibson
To floyd and Bud,

tut tut, advocating drinking and driving whistle grin
When I drank I never drank bottled beers, I preferred beer in a 20 fluid ounce glass (pint) and when miserable I used to shred the little cardboard beer mats laugh

Still a great country song tho', Kenny and floyd, especially LOUD!

Alyn


Not advocating it, of course... the song harkens back to a time when people did still do that (our fathers' generation when they were younger - and everyone smoked, too). Miller is an awful tasting beer (imo) and I can't recall seeing anyone drinking one for decades - though I imagine there are some that still do since they are still selling beer.... I don't see people drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon either, and they are still around as well - the old American beers...

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Great co-write guys. Vocal, production, cool mandolin and arrangement too. Agree with that lump in the throat comment. Love it when an uptempo song still gets ya with those real emotional zingers.

Thanks, Josie. We appreciate that...


Originally Posted By: critter
Another great tune from the master, fantastic job in all formats!! Too bad I live in Wisconsin, we could make one heck of a band.....

Thanks, Steve.... Wisconsin is far too cold for me!


Originally Posted By: Sergio Guarneri
Hello,

the comments are always the same: great music.

Nice sound, great country voice.
hello.

Sergio.


Thank you, Sergio.... appreciate your support...

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Tom - I fixed those drums...

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Great write! So much fun to be a part of if only as a listener.

Me and my old man didn't get along the last few years but I made a point of calling him once a week and visiting whenever I was in New Orleans and now that he's gone I am forever grateful that we made the effort to talk to one another.

much enjoyed!

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Hi Floyd. You sound so comfortable with your songs.
Very smooth and enjoyable. Cheers.

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I get the impression you've got a preference for country music. wink

Great write and production, as usual.


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Originally Posted By: Skyline
Cool stuff Floyd. Top class songwriting skills on display here! I always love your voice and delivery.

John

Really appreciate that, John... Good to see you! Hope things are going good for y'all....


Originally Posted By: SRP
Floyd I am blown away with how quickly that you guys put this together. Great song! Great lyrics! and just the right instrumentation to glue it together.
Sonny

Thanks, Sonny... Once Kenny set up the scene, it was easy to see where this should go. I've always said that 85% of a good song is the "right idea" - the song should write itself from there.

I've done so many productions using BIAB that for something like this - where it needed to be a fairly basic sound start to finish (not a lot of nuance needed for this) - it's easy to get most of it settled in within an hour or so... A truly AMAZING tool. It's magic!

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Really like the imagery in this one guys. well done.


Regards,

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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Floyd,

Really enjoyed this song. Love the line with "summer breeze"... Great job.

Bob

Thanks, Bob... I keep wondering if anyone clicked that link...


Originally Posted By: 44kfl
I love what you've done with this, one of my favorite songs of yours. My contribution was really just the scratch idea that you developed. I missed one the back and forth PMs and actually wrote verses that take this song into a different darker direction, but I like this version much better.

Kenny - let's do some more!!!


Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud

Alyn, if you've never sat in a bar and peeled the label off a miller (stolen from another song) then you haven't been "American sad!" It's one of the USA's popular "water beers" cause that's what they taste like.

Another round, please! Put it on his tab!!

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Originally Posted By: c_fogle
Great song. I really liked the way the phrasing of the lyrics were done on this one. It sings differently than it reads in such a way it helps to carry the song forward.

Charlie

Thanks, Charlie...



Originally Posted By: boehm
Hi Floyd,

a great song again. In every aspect.
My regards to Kenny for kicking that off.
And thank God that I know now what a Miller
is.

Guenter

We appreciate that, Guenter... I would imagine y'all don't have any beers as weak as a Miller...

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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
This sounds like country gold to me. I love the lyrics. Very colorful.

Great job!

Thanks, David..


Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Kenny's gift for furniture and Floyd's gift for craft, what could go wrong? Apparently.....Nothing!! Great song on all levels-memorable images, singable melody, creative and lively arrangement, and spotless mix. Great job guys! Wonderful co-write!! Take care. Greg

We do appreciate that, Greg...

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Great backstory guys. BiaB + the net + two talented users = ear candy for us
forum folks. And irrespective of the time spent on it the production sounds
"big studio" (and we cranked the Polks and the sub woofer up, way up, when
we listened). Everything was hittin' the note.

We had some uncles who could've been the poster boys for this tune and, hey,
bet he didn't have his seat belt on either -- our imagery allows the belt but
not harness or bags smile

And now we will kindly defer to all of Greg's comment.

Great collab y'all!!

J&B

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: J&B

BiaB + the net + two talented users = ear candy for us
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Hi Kenny and floyd,

This is a great listen - music, lyrics, arrangement, performance. You've both done a terrific job putting it together. I thought that J&B's mathematical expression summarised my thoughts exactly so I'm going to +1 it.

In addition, I'd just like to say that these lyrics are a great lesson in one type of lyric development strategy. Verse 1 which is rich in sense-bound imagery perfectly sets the scene for verse 2 which moves into understanding character. I don't know of any textbook that models this technique better than these lyrics.

Overall.... an outstanding listen in every way.

Thanks, Noel! You defined the development (Verse 1 vs. Verse 2) exactly as I think of it. If folks would simply keep that one concept in mind as they write, they would need very few other tools... Thanks for your usual astute insight...

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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Good write.

Had a buddy who drank Miller.

Thanks.


Originally Posted By: tommyad
A nice nostalgic look back. Some really good imagery. I am sorry to report that I have had more than my fair share of Miller's. This was obviously before my taste bud's woke up! Another really good write and a production that is up to the always impeccable standards that floyd sets. I have to admit I listened to this many times before those first two drum fills settled in my mind. I am happy to report I'm good with them now. Kenny, glad you're around. I enjoy your work. Nicely done in all regards. Tom

Thanks, Tom... Not sure if you caught the mention earlier... I "fixed" the drums. I had had the same reaction early on, but forgot to go back and address it... you know, after a bunch of listens, you tend to let some things slide...


Originally Posted By: gibson
To floyd and Bud,

tut tut, advocating drinking and driving whistle grin
When I drank I never drank bottled beers, I preferred beer in a 20 fluid ounce glass (pint) and when miserable I used to shred the little cardboard beer mats laugh

Still a great country song tho', Kenny and floyd, especially LOUD!

Alyn

Thanks, again, Alyn...

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Great tune! I can see someone in Nashville cutting this. It may be my imagination, but I am thinking I hear an earlier version of this? Maybe it is just reminiscent of another great song you two did.

At any rate, this seems extremely pitchable. It has everything going for it that a "radio song" needs to have it seems to me. Great writing. Also, a really strong production. A+. smile

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Originally Posted By: gruverider
Great write! So much fun to be a part of if only as a listener.

Me and my old man didn't get along the last few years but I made a point of calling him once a week and visiting whenever I was in New Orleans and now that he's gone I am forever grateful that we made the effort to talk to one another.

much enjoyed!

Thanks, Lawrence... I'm kind of surprised there were not more "dad stories" - I would imagine we all have them...


Originally Posted By: RichMac
Hi Floyd. You sound so comfortable with your songs.
Very smooth and enjoyable. Cheers.

Thanks, Richard... this is not just mine... it's Kenny's, too... thanks for the listen...



Originally Posted By: dcuny
I get the impression you've got a preference for country music. wink

Great write and production, as usual.

LOL - it's who I am, ya know...

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Originally Posted By: 90 dB
Really like the imagery in this one guys. well done.


Regards,

Bob

We appreciate that, Robert...



Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Great tune! I can see someone in Nashville cutting this. It may be my imagination, but I am thinking I hear an earlier version of this? Maybe it is just reminiscent of another great song you two did.

At any rate, this seems extremely pitchable. It has everything going for it that a "radio song" needs to have it seems to me. Great writing. Also, a really strong production. A+. smile

Thanks, David... this was written just prior to posting it last week... and is the first time that Kenny and I have written something together... hopefully there will be more... thanks for the kind words..

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