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I purchased that some time ago and no go, they said they were going to improve it.
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The current version available is "lite". We are working on new features and improvements for possible "pro" version but the release date is not yet scheduled.
Please send us examples that you find GrooveExtractor not working well so we can investigate.
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Thank you for the examples. We will study them and try to improve GrooveExtractor.
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Hi,
I’m bumping this topic, to see if anyone has found any drum transcription software that works well.
So far the best one I’ve found is Ableton. Though forum threads say it apparently exports MIDI only at 96ppq, and reportedly ignores silence at the start when exporting MIDI (so will always call the first midi note time 0)
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I have not used it myself but +++ Drumagog 5 by Wavemachine +++ gets good reviews and the developer has been improving the product since 1999. There are three editions. The base program lacks midi capability. The Pro edition with midi in\out is $99. The program uses iLok copy protection. Have you tried +++ Groove Extractor 2 by Le Sound +++? Like Drumagog, Groove Extractor 2 receives audio and outputs midi. It is available on both Windows and Apple platforms. The latest version was released June, 2018. It looks like this program might be able to handle batch files. Most of the audio to midi programs I've seen are general purpose for all audio. Many of the drum programs support replacement instead of transcription. The programs replace existing audio with sampled audio.
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Did you try that Superior Drummer 3, you just drag the stereo track in then copy it so you have a track for each drum/cymbal. I think I posted that in the 2018 Win BB beta forum ? I would of thought that worked better than Ableton ?
Also if you have the stems wouldn't you be better using them to get the midi as there are separate hits ?
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Tracker – the most efficient and accurate on the market ? Superior Drummer 3 Pre-sales Answered September 15, 2017 at 11:30 #1997608 Andreas Forum Crew @bob Muso said: I need to convert a lot of stereo mixed drum tracks to midi, “Tracker – the most efficient and accurate audio to midi conversion on the market”. I can’t see any SD3 Demo to try the Tracker. So I uploaded a stereo drum mix to convert to midi: Listen: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5i4bpajqhbprp3/Drums-Blues-120ev.wav?dl=0 Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5i4bpajqhbprp3/Drums-Blues-120ev.wav?dl=1 If it does that it should do the rest hopefully. Bob. Imported this file. Piece of cake. Everything was triggered perfectly in a few minutes time. Had to select which tom sound to map to which tom in SD3 and tweak the hi-hat a bit. Added and removed a few cymbal hits while playing through the song as well. If I knew the song and didn’t have to listen to the entire thing it would have been even quicker. //Andreas Andreas Walfridsson - Toontrack Interaction Designer
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My vote on SD3 as well. I love it.
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Here's one in the Reaper forum, haven't tried it I don't think it would be better than Superior Drummer 3. https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=188797
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Over time I have looked at several options. I have found none that make it simple. Probably the easiest I’ve used is Melodyne. In Melodyne open the drum wav. Melodyne should sort it as percussion. Select a part (say first beat in a bar) then tell Melodyne to select the same beat in all bars. Then move those to a new line (note). Then repeat the process for other beats. Where you have several hits at the same time (eg hi hat and kick) you can copy the kick to the hi hat line. Once the notes are sorted export as midi. Then import the midi into your daw and put the notes onto the drum part required. Sounds like a lot of work but it’s not too bad. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enYsjfCggvYEdit put in correct video Tony
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Peter posted this 4 years ago: If anyone has got some software to work, (to convert a drum Audi WAV to MIDI could they please try it on one of our drum files in the bb\drums folder and post the results as a MIDI file? So?... Please stop posting blurbs and opinions from websites, somebody get some software, create an RD track, run it through and see what happens. I'd love to hear it too. Bob
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02-15-2019 Hi,
I’m bumping this topic, to see if anyone has found any drum transcription software that works well.
So far the best one I’ve found is Ableton. Though forum threads say it apparently exports MIDI only at 96ppq, and reportedly ignores silence at the start when exporting MIDI (so will always call the first midi note time 0) Peter posted this 4 years ago:....Please stop posting blurbs and opinions from websites, I will get some software, create a RD track, run it through and see what happens. I'll let you know the results.
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Ha, I knew that was coming. The thing is nobody wants to spend several hundred bucks for something that we all suspect won't work very well.
I was thinking that if anybody had every possible piece of music software known to man it would be you but since you haven't posted an answer to Peter's request I take it you haven't found anything either?
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Peter employs people to sit there and try things out, develop things.
I'm not a drummer with a good ear to pick up exactly what's being hit it the tight spots, Peter and his crew are quite capable of doing this. They have been pointed to some great tools, I'm sure they will sort it all out, and as said before if they already have the stems it would be easier than using the stereo drums we all have at the moment.
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That's a good point but the fact he asked for our help tells me they've come up with squat. It's obvious they don't have any multitracks of these drums which validates my point a year or so ago about this. People kept saying if PG would just release the multittracks we can get great midi versions of the RD's. There are no multracks, those RD's were recorded with 2 or 3 mic's as stereo files, that's it. They talked about this years ago when the RD's were first introduced. What people forget or don't know is there are already some pretty good drum parts in the midi styles. I forget now but there's a symbol of some sort that identifies the midi drums that were recorded by a live drummer on a midi drum kit and it's a decent percentage.
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There are no multracks, those RD's were recorded with 2 or 3 mic's as stereo files so they don't have any "stems" only 500 odd stereo RealDrums recorded with 2 or 3 mics ? 
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That's my understanding, yes. The RD's were introduced with Power Tracks a year or two before Real Band was created and at the time this question came up and that was the answer. Stereo created by 2 or 3 mics. The RD's were not recorded with close mic's on each part of the kit like that pic. You can tell that by listening to them. Of course that could have changed by now but I've seen no mention of it.
To me this gives the drums a classic live sound at the cost of not having individual control. This is the way drums were recorded 40-50 years ago when everything was going to a Studer two track. Depending on who you talk to they were only using 2 mics as well, one overhead and one somewhere low usually the kick I guess. And it's the same thing I do when I do live remote recording.
I have an Akai DPS12 with 8 live inputs. I try to use three mics, one in the kick since most kick drums have the hole in front, one below the snare/hi hat and an overhead. That leaves 5 for the instruments and one vocal. Putting 3 mics on the drums gives me some control over mixing. I can cut or boost the kick and the same with the cymbals using EQ alone which is good enough for a live band recording and it's the same thing I do with the RD's. In addition to running the recording I'm also playing keys, I don't have the time or inclination to be hauling 15 mics and doing all that set up.
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Hi Bob,
Have you had any luck in remembering what symbol it is for real midi drum parts.
Sorry for bombing in on this but would find it very useful.
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Hi Bob,
Have you had any luck in remembering what symbol it is for real midi drum parts.
Sorry for bombing in on this but would find it very useful.
Brian What do you mean by 'symbol'? And there are RealDrums from PG Music, and MIDI drums from everywhere. What do you mean by 'real midi drum parts'?
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He means midi drum parts created by a live drummer on a midi drum kit. Mac talked about this years ago, many of the midi styles have "real" midi drums like that and he said there was something that told us that but I have no idea what it is now. For me I can usually tell by listening to the part. The drums have that live feel to them rather than sequenced.
Pipeline, yes I saw that but if that's the case then why did Peter make the request in this thread? And why wasn't the multitrack stems confirmed way back in the Power Tracks days? That question did come up and the only thing that was said is the RD's are stereo files no mention of multitracks. Maybe he's going two directions at once? Maybe the VST can't handle it? Who knows, it's all speculation at this point.
If it happens then we'll all know it.
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