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Calming down the piano player #318719 11/15/15 09:03 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 128 P pedwards2932 OP Apprentice
OP pedwards2932 Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 128	I am doing some backing tracks and need to calm down the piano player. I am using Real Tracks with a honky tonk style and it sounds great just during the verses I need more straight chording less all over the place. I am not a piano player.....how do you handle this....I really like using the Real Tracks didn't want to use midi if I could avoid it.

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318721 11/15/15 09:40 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,119 South Carolina	You have several options to try. From within Biab and if you have a free track, generate a second track of the piano and check the force to simple arrangement button and then use F5 to toggle between the different versions. With a free track, you could choose to generate a different, but similar piano that may be less busy and toggle between those two versions as necessary to tame the piano. You could export your piano track and open it in Realband and multi-riff sections to edit the busy sections or merge different pianos. You could audition Supermidi piano tracks for a useable style and if you find something suitable, easily edit it to the sound you want. Fade out the piano from the sections it is too busy and bring in a different instrument that is less busy and replace the busy piano for those sections. Hire a friend or professional to play the piano live for you. BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318722 11/15/15 09:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,962 Australia	Hi pedwards, What is the Realtrack's id number? So that we might suggest alternatives (if they exist), it will be useful to know what RT you're working with. Also, don't discount midi piano, it sounds as good as the real thing if a good soft synth is used such as Sampletank - especially the midi Supertracks. Regards, Noel my lastest song: Can You Imagine MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Calming down the piano player Noel96 #318752 11/15/15 03:29 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP pedwards2932 Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 128	I am using Real Tracks 1591. I have a full version of SampleTank and actually used a midi file of the song (Bad Bad Leroy Brown.....I know kinda goofy but I just wanted to do it anyway) The rest of the midi file piano could possibly be used but it didn't sound near as good as RT 1591. It would be cool if you could do like Real Drums and add points where you want an embellishment.

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318759 11/15/15 05:38 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP pedwards2932 Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 128	I switched to RT 2048 seems to be a better match for the song. The problem with the original midi file is the piano played the intro properly but after that it followed the melody too closely. RT 2048 doesn't seem to get as exaggerated with the fills. I really liked some of the fills with 1591 just was too much. I may try to bring some of them in to fill it out.

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318793 11/16/15 03:42 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	"...need to calm down the piano player..." Have you tried getting him drunk? Usually works. Regards, Bob Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: Calming down the piano player 90 dB #318795 11/16/15 03:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,039 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: 90 dB "...need to calm down the piano player..." Have you tried getting him drunk? Usually works. Regards, Bob I didn't know that worked on pianoists! I do know it works on bass players! It works just the opposite on drummers! If you want to calm down a guitarist just put sheet music in front of him/her. My goal this weekend is to move just enough each day so that no one pokes me to see if I'm dead or not. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318797 11/16/15 04:27 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 9,409 Middlesex, NC	Move the project to Real Band. Audition one of the many similar piano real tracks and see which one works the best and sounds the closest as far as tone and EQ. Use automation to bring the 2 piano's in and out as needed. Last edited by Guitarhacker; 11/16/15 04:28 AM. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Calming down the piano player Guitarhacker #318849 11/16/15 12:27 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP pedwards2932 Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 128	I have it in RB that is where I auditioned the other piano player. Once I record vocals I will see how well everything fits.....then maybe I can pull in some fills from the other one. I am still learning how to edit in RB....not as easy as Sonar for me but I have a lot of experience with Sonar. I need to read up on how to use automation.

Re: Calming down the piano player MarioD #318855 11/16/15 12:50 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,507 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: MarioD If you want to calm down a guitarist just put sheet music in front of him/her. Ha ha, still laughing. Yep, for some, that's do it for sure... BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Calming down the piano player pedwards2932 #318908 11/17/15 03:31 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 9,409 Middlesex, NC	Originally Posted By: pedwards2932 .....still learning how to edit in RB....not as easy as Sonar for me but I have a lot of experience with Sonar. So use Sonar. That's what I do. Since I already know and understand and like how easy it is to automate in Sonar.....the 60 seconds it takes to set up a new project and import the audio tracks is time well spent vs trying to figure out how it all works in RB. Work smart. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

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