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Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time #320848 11/26/15 04:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43 J Jonnwhite OP Enthusiast
OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Hello, I'm in BIAB 2012 (Windows 10 64) and set up a repeat, but it only plays correctly the first time. The second time around it just plays the first chord of the cycle all the way through. Checked the settings, but couldn't find anything. Thanks, J

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #320852 11/26/15 04:10 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Are tracks frozen? If you had a song which was then frozen, and you added repeats etc, then the changes would not play unless the tracks were unfrozen, and then regenerated. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321111 11/27/15 12:14 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,832 Australia	Jon, Have 1st/2nd time repeats worked for you in the past or are you experimenting with them now for the first time? Regards, Noel my lastest song: Can You Imagine MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Noel96 #321135 11/27/15 02:34 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Hello Noel, Thanks for getting back to me. This is my first attempt. Dave

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321137 11/27/15 02:36 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Hello VT, Thanks for your reply. I was not aware of the "freeze" function and have not intentionally set it. Where would I check on that setting? Dave

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321140 11/27/15 02:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,035 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	If tracks are frozen, you see an asterisk (snowflake = frozen, get it) next to the name of the track. If you right-click on a track name (say, Drums) you will see the freeze choices near the bottom of that menu. If you right-click on the Master track, you can freeze/unfreeze all tracks together. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Matt Finley #321142 11/27/15 02:57 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Hi Dave, to follow on from Matt's good advice: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2015-11-28_11-52-18.jpg (137.39 KB, 48 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321146 11/27/15 03:13 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,035 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	No kidding? I never noticed that in the mixer. I've been doing it since before the GUI change and didn't see the new method. Cool. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321153 11/27/15 04:06 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Thanks, I'll check that at work. I have my doubts though, because it does play one chord at least the second time around.

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321168 11/27/15 05:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Hello Everyone, I was using 2012 Ultraplus and found a 2014 trial upgrade, which I installed. Now the repeat APPEARS to be working, when BIAB has actually gone on to the next chords in the song while visually appearing to stay on the repeat. Are you able to see this on this screenshot video I have shared in Google Drive? (also, no snowflake icons). https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByKD3YEZursuNV9NcmRZTTVkQTQ/view?usp=sharing Thanks so much again!

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321175 11/27/15 05:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Hmmm What happens if you select Unfold then generate again? (Perhaps also save with a different name) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2015-11-28_14-37-35.jpg (106.42 KB, 50 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321178 11/27/15 05:56 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	That doesn't help either. The song still plays back in the same way, ignoring the repeat and going on to invisible chord lines.

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321180 11/27/15 06:00 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	OK, I see what the problem is (but I don't know why). On the first of the 4x repeat, bar 5 plays Dm11 and bar 6 plays Em11. Then on the second of the 4x repeat it plays Dm11 for both bars 5 & 6 A picture is worth a thousand words. I wouldn't have figured the problem without that video I'm going to try to repeat. I'll be back Trev BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321196 11/27/15 06:38 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Sounds good. I might need that function some day, though this time I was able to get by with just copying and pasting the repeats. Thanks so much again!

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321209 11/27/15 07:04 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	OK, I'm back. I created the same song and got a different (but still incorrect) result. For the 4 repeated bars, mine played: 5 : Dm11, Em11, Dm11, Em11 9 : Em11, Em11, Em11, Em11, 13: Em11, Em11, Em11, Em11, 17: Em11, Em11, Em11, Em11, However, it depends on how you assign the repeats. Eventually after a few tries, here's how I did it and it worked perfectly: 1: Enter the song without the 4 bar repeats (just enter the 4 bars starting on bar 5) it will look like A: below 2: Set the repeats as in B: below 3: The songs displays as in C: below and each of the chords on the repeats work correctly Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2015-11-28_15-48-38.jpg (88.52 KB, 41 downloads) 2015-11-28_15-45-56.jpg (51.03 KB, 38 downloads) 2015-11-28_15-54-11.jpg (91.16 KB, 38 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Matt Finley #321239 11/27/15 11:41 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: Matt Finley No kidding? I never noticed that in the mixer. I've been doing it since before the GUI change and didn't see the new method. Cool. More than one way to deliver most things. I get amazed when I see different ways that others utilize various features. E.g., Since the new GUI came along I don't recall ever using the right-click on the track name to freeze a track. Nevertheless it's been there the whole time. Same result, just different delivery method. Maybe there'll even be MORE surprises soon, too! BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321370 11/28/15 11:20 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Jonnwhite Enthusiast J Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 43	Wow, thanks so much for all the work put in here and for the detailed response. I had NOT been checking that box at the bottom and I don't think I ever even noticed it. The repeat works now, as it should. Is it just me, does anyone think this needs a warning box or perhaps be the default setting? Kind Regards, J

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time AudioTrack #321372 11/28/15 11:24 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,035 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Originally Posted By: Matt Finley No kidding? I never noticed that in the mixer. I've been doing it since before the GUI change and didn't see the new method. Cool. More than one way to deliver most things. I get amazed when I see different ways that others utilize various features. E.g., Since the new GUI came along I don't recall ever using the right-click on the track name to freeze a track. Nevertheless it's been there the whole time. Same result, just different delivery method. It's amazing what you can look right at every day for years and not see. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Repeat has multiple chords, but only plays 1 2nd time Jonnwhite #321432 11/28/15 02:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: Jonnwhite Wow, thanks so much for all the work put in here and for the detailed response. I had NOT been checking that box at the bottom and I don't think I ever even noticed it. The repeat works now, as it should. Is it just me, does anyone think this needs a warning box or perhaps be the default setting? Kind Regards, J Hi Jonn I searched help and online videos and didn't find the method I eventually used. I guess it comes down to the massive functionality that has been added over 25 years of development. There is a popup hint though, and that did give me the clue I needed. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2015-11-29_11-35-28.jpg (60.45 KB, 13 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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