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Hi Tony, why the heck should I have to resort to updating my video driver? I've found that updating drivers can occur for two main reasons... 1. There was a fault with the driver that needed adjusting. 2. As electronics evolve and, as consequence, software programming languages evolve, it's necessary to have drivers that interface with the requirements of programming languages. (If programming languages didn't evolve, we'd still be back at DOS.) I had an instance last year where I wrote a small program that worked fine on my computer. When I transferred it to another computer, it wouldn't work. It turned out that the programming I used was only relevant to the newer computer with new drivers. Given that the area that is playing up for you is the Display Options, and that this is a newly programmed interface, it could be that the latest programming is asking your graphics driver to do something that it cannot... hence the suggestion for an update. Regards, Noel
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Sorry Noel, I allowed my irritation with PG to get the better of me.
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Noel,
Your first suggestion worked! Thanks so much. The song is 115 BPM.
I also just discovered at the bottom of the Song Settings dialog box there is a checkbox to disable Fast Generation. For the song that was stuttering I checked this option, re-enabled the High Quality Tempo/Pitch option in Real Tracks Settings, and re-generated the song. This worked too. It can be done on a song-by-song basis.
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Noel,
Your first suggestion worked! Thanks so much. The song is 115 BPM.
Ron I'm pleased to hear it's up and running. 115 bpm isn't that fast. The reason I asked is because it sometimes happens on really fast songs that playback catches up to where regeneration is occurring and this can cause an issue similar to what you describe. Noel
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Sorry Noel, I allowed my irritation with PG to get the better of me.
Tony It's ok, Tony. I hear your frustration. PG Music are an excellent company and I know they will be working on this. One thing I've noticed over the years is that their customers always get top priority. Have you contacted Help? It might pay to if you haven't. Regards, Noel
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Noel
As I said earlier, the stuttering is intermittent and I have just realized that it only starts to happen after I have played several songs after starting the program. It NEVER happens, even with the "bad" songs, the first couple of times I play those songs. This may sound strange but I have proved it with many tests.
With regard to your advice about de-selecting high speed generation I tried this and nothing changed. Since I always freeze all tracks you wouldn't expect generation to be an issue with this problem would you?
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Do we all have to become computer geeks in order to use their product? The answer is a resounding YES and I've said it for years. This problem is all about your computer Tony. As well known apps become more complex your hardware has to move forward accordingly. I do not have this problem and my machine is not the latest or greatest but I have a Geekbench score of 7850 which is still fairly strong but a new i7 machine with 16 gigs of ram can score in the 13-15K range. When it comes to digital audio newer and faster is always better. I can't give you the details but this is certainly something to do with your graphics card, your CPU, your monitor, a config setting, something like that. There are so many different configurations out there with all the different versions of PC's there's no way a small company like PGM can set their programs up to run a new version perfectly without some help from you setting up your own PC. Just keep working with Support and trying the suggestions here and you'll clear it up. Like it or not, you are a computer nerd my friend... Bob
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There is one alternate if you are more the musician than the computer geek. That is, you need to know a computer geek who can jump in a moments notice.  good luck....
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The answer is a resounding YES and I've said it for years. This problem is all about your computer Tony. As well known apps become more complex your hardware has to move forward accordingly. I do not have this problem and my machine is not the latest or greatest but I have a Geekbench score of 7850 which is still fairly strong but a new i7 machine with 16 gigs of ram can score in the 13-15K range. When it comes to digital audio newer and faster is always better.
I can't give you the details but this is certainly something to do with your graphics card, your CPU, your monitor, a config setting, something like that. There are so many different configurations out there with all the different versions of PC's there's no way a small company like PGM can set their programs up to run a new version perfectly without some help from you setting up your own PC. Just keep working with Support and trying the suggestions here and you'll clear it up.
Like it or not, you are a computer nerd my friend...
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Your remarks are interesting considering PG's Dec 10 update didn't work either. Is that my fault also????? Is it OK because PG are a small company???? I see PG had to re-issue the download, I've never seen them do that before. I will never cease to be amazed at the slack the some dedicated users will give to PG. You make it sound like they are running a charity and we should be eternally grateful for their efforts. In reality they are running a business to make money and as customers we have the right to expect a level of due diligence in designing, testing and issuing of a revised product. If the average user can immediately find dozens of glitches why can PG not do it? If an upgrade means that certain computers will have problems why does PG not run their upgrades on a selection of computers. Why do the beta testers not pick up these problems, are they all running better computers than the average Joe user? Do PG prescribe a detail testing protocol to the beta testers or just say - "here it is, give it a try". Tony
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The answer is a resounding YES and I've said it for years. This problem is all about your computer Tony. As well known apps become more complex your hardware has to move forward accordingly. I do not have this problem and my machine is not the latest or greatest but I have a Geekbench score of 7850 which is still fairly strong but a new i7 machine with 16 gigs of ram can score in the 13-15K range. When it comes to digital audio newer and faster is always better.
I can't give you the details but this is certainly something to do with your graphics card, your CPU, your monitor, a config setting, something like that. There are so many different configurations out there with all the different versions of PC's there's no way a small company like PGM can set their programs up to run a new version perfectly without some help from you setting up your own PC. Just keep working with Support and trying the suggestions here and you'll clear it up.
Like it or not, you are a computer nerd my friend...
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Your remarks are interesting considering PG's Dec 10 update didn't work either. Is that my fault also????? Is it OK because PG are a small company???? I see PG had to re-issue the download, I've never seen them do that before. I will never cease to be amazed at the slack the some dedicated users will give to PG. You make it sound like they are running a charity and we should be eternally grateful for their efforts. In reality they are running a business to make money and as customers we have the right to expect a level of due diligence in designing, testing and issuing of a revised product. If the average user can immediately find dozens of glitches why can PG not do it? If an upgrade means that certain computers will have problems why does PG not run their upgrades on a selection of computers. Why do the beta testers not pick up these problems, are they all running better computers than the average Joe user? Do PG prescribe a detail testing protocol to the beta testers or just say - "here it is, give it a try". Tony Could not agree more. I find it stunning that we have to get the big fanfare for something like "gee you can actually see your chords as you enter them" Such things should have been fixed a decade ago and the whole program is still flakey counterintuitive and win 95 type designing. Its a lot of money for flakey code. Since Real Tracks there has been hardly any major development. So much of it I dare not use as its so scrappy, VSTs, notation, recording, it a joke but not a good one.
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Do we all have to become computer geeks in order to use their product? The answer is a resounding YES and I've said it for years. This problem is all about your computer Tony. As well known apps become more complex your hardware has to move forward accordingly. I do not have this problem and my machine is not the latest or greatest but I have a Geekbench score of 7850 which is still fairly strong but a new i7 machine with 16 gigs of ram can score in the 13-15K range. When it comes to digital audio newer and faster is always better. (Sorry in advance for my English...) I must admit that I wasn't very excited with bbw2016, for one basic reason: after reading the new features list it seemed that v2016 didn't solve most of the bugs and oddities that have been there for years. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=316975&page=1But after a few days, and after seeing some videos and hearing the new (excellent) realtracks I decided to upgrade again, as every year. After all, new realtracks are always welcome, a few new features seemed interesting to me, and last but not least I really wanted to continue supporting a product from I've learned so much as a musician. So I bought the upgrade, installed BIAB version and started to explore it. The first thing I wanted to check was the new Section Text Layer on the main chord window, a feature that I've been waiting for years. I stopped using BIAB as a notation program because it's many glitches in the notation area, and being able to easily entering a section text from the main windows was something that I have waited for years (entering section text from the notation window is a nightmare, please just try it). First surprise: the section text entered from the main window is not interpreted as section text by BIAB, and thus not showed on the notation window nor exported in xml files. Just after two minutes using the program I found the first bug and I realized that this new feature was completely useless for me. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=47454&Number=323522#Post323522But it's my fault. Another important new feature to me was the ability of customize the number of columns in the new chord window, another basic feature that I've been waiting for years. Since half of the screen is occupied (in my computer) by enormous icons and a mixer that I don't use (but I can't get ride of) (!!!), my work space is very small, and I need a way of zooming in and out to show more or less chords when working on song's structures. After a few minutes trying to find that option, I just found that another bug in 2016 prevented me from accessing to that option: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=47455&Number=323533#Post323533But it's my fault. Well, I must admit that I was a little bit dissapointed at this point, but who cares, I really didn't want these small annoiances to put an end to the excitement of the new version, so I started to exploring the new realtracks. They sounded great, yes, but after a couple of minutes hearing them I noticed some audio and video and video oddities that weren't there in v.2015: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=323567#Post323567But it's my fault. Then a new free update appeared, which seemed to solve several of these bugs. I downloaded it and installed it, but after that I couldn't launch the program at all because a runtime error because a fault of mine. I then deleted bbw.exe and copied and renamed the last backup of the executable file (automatically saved by the installation program under the bb2016_backup, but it didn't worked, because that exe file wasn't v.2016, but v.2015. That was also my fault...
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Cerio, ZeroZero, Tony - are you folks Beta testers, have you volunteered to BE beta testers?
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Cerio, ZeroZero, Tony - are you folks Beta testers, have you volunteered to BE beta testers?
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No,but I would be happy doing some beta testing for biab
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Your remarks are interesting considering PG's Dec 10 update didn't work either. Is that my fault also????? Is it OK because PG are a small company????
I see PG had to re-issue the download, I've never seen them do that before.
I will never cease to be amazed at the slack the some dedicated users will give to PG. Dude, I don't go easy on PG if I have an issue. I've dumped on them pretty hard in the past. It's just that I haven't had much to complain about lately. Am I some super nerd? Heck no, I have issues and wishlist items too but most of the time like this point you're talking about, I don't have that problem and neither do a lot of other users judging from posts on the forum. A few do but not the majority. I notice you didn't address that point in your post accusing me of cutting them too much slack. So they released a new beta update that they had to remove some hours later. So they made a mistake. So what? I'm not apologizing for them, it is what it is. Don't you use any other 3rd party software, especially DAW type software? I suppose those apps are perfect, never any problems with updates, right? Riiightt. If you believe that... The majority of problems people report on this forum as bugs are not bugs. They may be an enhancement they wished was there but it's not a bug. A bug is specifically defined as an advertised feature that does not work properly. Lots of folks make incorrect assumptions when they read something about an enhancement. They THINK it's going to do something specific when PG never said that. It's like Cerio talking about his screen space and the crowded icons. That's his system too along with mine btw. I had the same issue and posted about it. When I increased the resolution suddenly Biab looked much better and more in proportion. The problem was text was so small it was hard to read. Ok, so whose fault is that? Is it PG's fault that I'm not a 30 year old fighter pilot with eagle eyesight? No. Younger folks use those high resolutions and can read everything just fine. Older folks have to adapt. Simple as that. Programs run best using certain configurations. Graphics cards, a CPU and ram are very important. Does that mean BIAB won't run on other setups? No, all that means is it runs better, faster or looks better or whatever on a different setup. A company like PG simply CANNOT make every new version run just perfect for everybody running who knows how many different setups especially older PC's. They usually have it so it still runs ok, and the user can still get stuff done but is it going to run the BEST it can? No. Is is going to LOOK the best it can? No. Or take his complaints about the notation and calling that a bug too. Show me where PG said notation was going to do what Cerio wants it to do. If it's not advertised or in the documentation then it's not a bug. It's simply another wishlist item. Or it's there but it's not exactly what we WISH it did. Like the Coda sign being superimposed either on top of or crowded right next to a chord symbol. Is that a bug? Yeah, maybe. Technically, the sign is there, it does print but it's pretty unusable so I've got a workaround for that. That's another "it is what it is" things and it's been in the Wishlist for years. You could argue that yes the coda is there but it's not displaying very well so it's a bug. Whatever. Just have fun and enjoy the program. Bob
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This may or may not help. But once you've got your song put together try freezing the tracks. It cuts way down on reload time and takes a lot of the load off BB to play. I don't know anything about your computer system but Bob's right. The only time you're going to have a bug is if you get an error message that shows whatever you did isn't working properly. It could be your computer or it could be a bug. FYI I am a beta tester. We keep going thru this software even when beta is over showing if any bugs pop up. Sometimes it's a bug. Sometimes its a setting that isn't jiving with the software. We work it out and soon you get an update ... or ... a work around.  No two computers are alike. Some use different CPU's. Some use different memory chips. Some use different video and sound cards. They may not all jive with BB alike, as mentioned before. So you have to tweak your system to make things jive. There are things running in the background of Windows all the time. Turning off your auto update program might help. Interupts are a big problem when it comes to music programs of any kind. I've tried a bunch. They all have problems of some kind. They require that you tweak your system until it runs right. Or ... it don't. Turning off a lot of BB gadgets that you don't need to use can help a lot. The list goes on and on. I hope this is helpful to you.
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