Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 13,032
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 13,032
Here is a idea. Why not take this and place it on the Wish List. ...Said with a big smile on a cold and dark Sunday morning in Chicago!grin



Retired to Make Music - No Plan B
My SoundCloud
View Current Projects
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
J
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
Originally Posted By: GHinCH
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Originally Posted By: GHinCH
How many *.sty files are in your bb folder?

in my bb folder I have 5,088 files with the .STY extension.


Then that is what you have.

Well, yes, obviously! But my question was why is it reported in several different quantities by BIAB? What is correct? Etc.

Originally Posted By: GHinCH
So your file count in Drive:\BB should match the number of installed styles using the slow rebuild option.

And that is where the confusion is...BIAB does not report the same number as are on my drive!

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
J
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
I don't think they will change it as the programmers seem to have a 'that will do attitude' as is evidenced all over the program. I often feel like a ferret in a labrinth

Z

and I'm sure we will shortly have folks responding about how being a "ferret in a labrinth" is a good thing...a handy BIAB feature...to help them learn through discovery or some such reason! laugh

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 430
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 430
Its not a bug ...its a feature!!


I'm doing allright for Country Trash ....

I used to care, but things have changed (Bob Dylan)

BIAB 2026W + RB
M-Audio FastTrack C600, Rode NT2-A
Digitech VoiceLive 4

Epiphone Sheraton, Ibanez 12str, Washburn 6str, Cort 6Str Nylon
Yanagisawa Tenor Sax

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
I just checked out the record function again, I was hoping their might be some way of simply recording. If its a MIDI recording then it can be a soloist or a melody recording, but if its an audio recording apparently not. Set recording levels and you get dumped out of the program into Windows. Click ANYWHERE in the box (not on the icon in the corner) and inexplicably, a video is loaded into Windows explorer.

This video first teaches you how to use windows '8/7/vista' then how to use a 'very common audio device' Realtek Audio Manager which it then proceeds to explain (no I am not making this up!4 how to use a realtek device. Enough to confuse any newbie.

Why not actually handle recording in app like other programs?

Further investigation as to how to record Audio brings up the helpful Audio settings panel. Like many other boxes in BIAB be careful where you click as clicking anywhere in the bottom half is liable to tick or untick a box even if you are not hovering over a box. I nearly clicked "Mixer requires keystrokes to open Record Panel"

Apparently this tick box is for windows 95 users! Perhaps the last time the code was revised.

"If you are running Windows 95, check to allow access to the Record Control from Band-in-a-Box. Do not check if using Windows 98 or greater."

Even after taking the ferret through this particular labrinth, if an audio recording is successful, there is no visual representation in the GUI, no layer to see. Only in the Audio edit window can you see something, but then of course you cant see the song or chords.

No, there is no ability to edit in the main gui, there is no ability to cut and paste, no ability to record multiple takes.

I think PG think 'this will do' and since windows 95 - years ago, have seen no urgent need to revise or improve this essential feature.
Recording should be easy, in house, and with proper VISUAL feedback in the main gui. Retakes and cutting and pasting between take should be easy.

Why is there only an ability to record MIDI as a 'soloist' or as a 'melody'. Why not an audio recording of a melody or solo? Its the same answer as why a banjo or violin was a guitar for years. No one has bothered to improve the gui.

I think its legacy coding that they have not bothered to improve since Windows 95 days - 21 years ago. It will do as it is.

It does not matter that any new user would naturally think that an audio recording can be a melody, or a solo. It 'will do' like this.

Why is the Audio track the only track that can be hidden in the mixer? Because it will do like this.

There are examples everywhere of this attitude.

Ferret in a labrinth, that's my experience

Z




Last edited by ZeroZero; 01/03/16 12:03 PM.

Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
J
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,959
Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
I just checked out the record function again, I was hoping their might be some way of simply recording. If its a MIDI recording then it can be a soloist or a melody recording, but if its an audio recording apparently not. Set recording levels and you get dumped out of the program into Windows. Click ANYWHERE in the box (not on the icon in the corner) and inexplicably, a video is loaded into Windows explorer.

This video first teaches you how to use windows '8/7/vista' then how to use a 'very common audio device' Realtek Audio Manager which it then proceeds to explain (no I am not making this up!4 how to use a realtek device. Enough to confuse any newbie.

Why not actually handle recording in app like other programs?

Further investigation as to how to record Audio brings up the helpful Audio settings panel. Like many other boxes in BIAB be careful where you click as clicking anywhere in the bottom half is liable to tick or untick a box even if you are not hovering over a box. I nearly clicked "Mixer requires keystrokes to open Record Panel"

Apparently this tick box is for windows 95 users! Perhaps the last time the code was revised.

"If you are running Windows 95, check to allow access to the Record Control from Band-in-a-Box. Do not check if using Windows 98 or greater."

Even after taking the ferret through this particular labrinth, if an audio recording is successful, there is no visual representation in the GUI, no layer to see. Only in the Audio edit window can you see something, but then of course you cant see the song or chords.

No, there is no ability to edit in the main gui, there is no ability to cut and paste, no ability to record multiple takes.

I think PG think 'this will do' and since windows 95 - years ago, have seen no urgent need to revise or improve this essential feature.
Recording should be easy, in house, and with proper VISUAL feedback in the main gui. Retakes and cutting and pasting between take should be easy.

Why is there only an ability to record MIDI as a 'soloist' or as a 'melody'. Why not an audio recording of a melody or solo? Its the same answer as why a banjo or violin was a guitar for years. No one has bothered to improve the gui.

I think its legacy coding that they have not bothered to improve since Windows 95 days - 21 years ago. It will do as it is.

It does not matter that any new user would naturally think that an audio recording can be a melody, or a solo. It 'will do' like this.

Why is the Audio track the only track that can be hidden in the mixer? Because it will do like this.

There are examples everywhere of this attitude.

Ferret in a labrinth, that's my experience

Z

You are correct of course but I do not hold much hope for solutions to the things you are describing. My advice to any newbie would be to use BIAB to generate instrument tracks that follow your song's chord progressions & tempo, export them dry & centered and then do all of your production in your modern DAW software. Don't bother with any feature that does not directly aid you in getting those instrument tracks exported!

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,174
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,174
Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
I just checked out the record function again, I was hoping their might be some way of simply recording. If its a MIDI recording then it can be a soloist or a melody recording, but if its an audio recording apparently not. Set recording levels and you get dumped out of the program into Windows. Click ANYWHERE in the box (not on the icon in the corner) and inexplicably, a video is loaded into Windows explorer.

This video first teaches you how to use windows '8/7/vista' then how to use a 'very common audio device' Realtek Audio Manager which it then proceeds to explain (no I am not making this up!4 how to use a realtek device. Enough to confuse any newbie.

Why not actually handle recording in app like other programs?

Further investigation as to how to record Audio brings up the helpful Audio settings panel. Like many other boxes in BIAB be careful where you click as clicking anywhere in the bottom half is liable to tick or untick a box even if you are not hovering over a box. I nearly clicked "Mixer requires keystrokes to open Record Panel"

Apparently this tick box is for windows 95 users! Perhaps the last time the code was revised.

"If you are running Windows 95, check to allow access to the Record Control from Band-in-a-Box. Do not check if using Windows 98 or greater."

Even after taking the ferret through this particular labrinth, if an audio recording is successful, there is no visual representation in the GUI, no layer to see. Only in the Audio edit window can you see something, but then of course you cant see the song or chords.

No, there is no ability to edit in the main gui, there is no ability to cut and paste, no ability to record multiple takes.

I think PG think 'this will do' and since windows 95 - years ago, have seen no urgent need to revise or improve this essential feature.
Recording should be easy, in house, and with proper VISUAL feedback in the main gui. Retakes and cutting and pasting between take should be easy.

Why is there only an ability to record MIDI as a 'soloist' or as a 'melody'. Why not an audio recording of a melody or solo? Its the same answer as why a banjo or violin was a guitar for years. No one has bothered to improve the gui.

I think its legacy coding that they have not bothered to improve since Windows 95 days - 21 years ago. It will do as it is.

It does not matter that any new user would naturally think that an audio recording can be a melody, or a solo. It 'will do' like this.

Why is the Audio track the only track that can be hidden in the mixer? Because it will do like this.

There are examples everywhere of this attitude.

Ferret in a labrinth, that's my experience

Z


Edited by ZeroZero (01/03/16 10:03 PM)

---->Every Day I use BIAB and love it<------




smile


Musiclover

My music https://www.youtube.com/user/donegalprideofall

Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2025, Cubase 14, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use smile
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
you are correct of course but I do not hold much hope for solutions to the things you are describing. My advice to any newbie would be to use BIAB to generate instrument tracks that follow your song's chord progressions & tempo, export them dry & centered and then do all of your production in your modern DAW software. Don't bother with any feature that does not directly aid you in getting those instrument tracks exported!


Sadly true. I don't touch recording, notation(which leaps around) , Audio editors - featureless. VSTs - blippy, simply because they don't have the functionality or fall over. There are some world class features bot overall Its a mess of a gui. The new improvements are about 5 percent of what is required and even they don't work properly

Z
Z


Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,906
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,906
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn

You are correct of course but I do not hold much hope for solutions to the things you are describing. My advice to any newbie would be to use BIAB to generate instrument tracks that follow your song's chord progressions & tempo, export them dry & centered and then do all of your production in your modern DAW software. Don't bother with any feature that does not directly aid you in getting those instrument tracks exported!


That is BiaB's main and should be it's only function IMHO. It should drop everything else like recording, notation etc and concentrate on backing tracks, both MIDI and RTs, output (XML, MIDI and audio) and go to 64 bit so our excellent VSTis will work with it.

There are far superior tools for recording, audio editing, notation etc. I feel using BiaB's tools for these functions would equivocate to building a house with on a hand saw, hammer and nails while your neighbor builds a house with power tools.

YMMV


Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,499
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,499
Actually that is what BIAB IS - that is its roots - and thst' the ONLY reason I buy it year, after year, after year.

The other "slap-ins" (and I do not mean that in a derogatory way) (audio, etc.) within BIAB were ASKED for over the years by USERS.

BIAB is NOT A DAW - Like I commented to someone in the RB forum who kept delineating all the things that Reaper does that BIAB and RB does not do - I asked him if he goes to Reaper forum to delineate all the things BIAB and RB does that Reaper DOES NOT!

May as well complain about why Excel (a spreadsheet) does not do relational database SQL functions, or why Photoshop doesn't do Nero video functions, or why my Ruger Old Army black powder revolver isn't magazine fed.

No I'm not a "PG fanboy" I use BIAB for what I bought it for and it does that exceptionally well.

Currently, nothing else, OTHER than Jammer Pro 6, comes close. As a side bar, while JP6 is still sold, it even has an MFX plug-in, and I still get marketing emails to buy, but nothing new has come out since about early 2009!

If some other PC or Mac product did what BIAB does - then folks would be buying that product and I'd be reading those forum complaints about why that other song making program doesn’t do things the way BIAB does or why that program doesn't do statistical analysis of the db values of the sampled positive peaks so that Ozone Pro could more easily be programmed to squeeze that last 0.1db of normalized compression into the resultant MP3 "tune."

BTW to OP you HAVE ALL THE CURRENT (PG) STYLES! See earlier post, But you don't have all the Note's Norton, and other 3rd party styles, so you are WAY behind grin


Larry

Last edited by Larry Kehl; 01/04/16 06:19 AM.

Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
[quote=MarioD
There are far superior tools for recording, audio editing, notation etc. I feel using BiaB's tools for these functions would equivocate to building a house with on a hand saw, hammer and nails while your neighbor builds a house with power tools.

YMMV

[/quote]

Some very good points above, though I would say that recording your musical performance along with BIAB IS a core function. I don't think many buy it just lo listen, and recording your practice can be an enlightening experience, if sometimes suprisng.

Lots of people would enjoy the musical challenge, but not the technically challenge, which borders on the absurd, if you don't know any better.

There are some things I LOVE about BIAB as we all do here, Real Tracks are King.

I do like the idea of lanes, just not the implementation. Just to dream a bit, I would love to see a 'layer view' . I would like to see the main GUI scroll according to tempo rather than leap around, and be capable of presenting a track horizontally, like a proper sequencer. I would want to be able to control bar size controls intuitively, graphically by dragging.
From there, it would be possible to have track types, for example:

1] Chord Info Track (shows per bar info such as chord name, Roman numerals, bar number - similar to main GUI) This track would have a timeline feature beats or minutes.
2} Real Track/user Audio recording track with subtypes)
3] MIDI/XML?User MIDI recording track (subtypes such as supertracks) views for notation, piano roll etc.)
4] Notation Track (selectable clef types, single double


Where the GUI scrolls left to right, there less of a problem presenting the tracks - like a sequencer does

Each of the (used tracks could have a lane, and everything could be hidden or revealed as appropriate.

A simple view would be just the chords with selectable info.

A more complex view might be a view where a MIDI and or a Real Track notation track was also displayed, or some notation for the bass part. The user could customise the complexity.

Ill call this "Layer view".

I think most of the tech is there for such a view, its a matter of rethinking the GUI and displaying things in useful intuitive way.

Z


Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,174
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,174
[/quote]

though I would say that recording your musical performance along with BIAB IS a core function. I don't think many buy it just lo listen, and recording your practice can be an enlightening experience, if sometimes suprisng.


Z [/quote]

To be honest Zero I don't think most people want to be able to record into biab.

Most people from reading the forums down through the years use biab as a quick sketchpad to audition styles and some realtracks, lay out the foundation of their song such as chords and them open it in realband to generate more realtracks, and either finish the project in realband or another DAW.

Maybe you are expecting more from biab than what its intended to do.

Musiclover

Last edited by musiclover; 01/04/16 09:09 AM.

Musiclover

My music https://www.youtube.com/user/donegalprideofall

Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2025, Cubase 14, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use smile
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,906
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,906
Well stated Musiclover and I agree 100%.


Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,499
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,499
Amen!

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,125
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,125
Yes, always use the best tool for the job. BiaB does some things best, other tools (including RealBand) do other things best.
You can hammer a nail in with a wrench, but your hammer is better for that purpose.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
You friends are free to disagree, and the user base must be very diverse, even so I would say that if BIAB are going to provide this function it should be done in a proper user friendly way, you cannot hear your synth,for levelling purposes, until the song starts - this should be fixed too, we are always 'working around' stuff like this. It been there for a long time, so it will do,

Keep record function and improve it is what I say. It should even be possible for BIAB to have only one button, which provides both MIDI and Audio record.

Personally I dont see the need for two programs, because RB can never compare to a real sequencer. The recording and display assets it has, could be integrated, in a rethink, redesign, which I think will come with 64 bit, whenever that is. BIAB>RB>DAW is a labrinth, and if you need to step back and forth through apps it can be tedious IMO.

It's a bit sad to think that the best thing to do with BIAB is export to DAW as soon as you can.

Z

Last edited by ZeroZero; 01/05/16 01:04 AM.

Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,633
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,633
Hi zero,

I don't find it a labyrinth at all.

I use the program for songwriting and it is brilliant. There's nothing else around that even comes close to the versatility that BIAB offers me in relation to composing a song and developing an arrangement.

When I start to look at producing the arrangement, I then move to programs that offer production flexibility in the same way that BIAB offers songwriting/arranging flexibility.

Just my tuppence worth.

Regards,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi zero,

I don't find it a labyrinth at all.

....

Just my tuppence worth.



Add mine to that wink


Cheers,
Mike

My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,869
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi zero,

I don't find it a labyrinth at all.

I use the program for songwriting and it is brilliant. There's nothing else around that even comes close to the versatility that BIAB offers me in relation to composing a song and developing an arrangement.

When I start to look at producing the arrangement, I then move to programs that offer production flexibility in the same way that BIAB offers songwriting/arranging flexibility.

Just my tuppence worth.

Regards,
Noel


First off I respect this point of view BIAB has a wide user base for differing needs. IMO if you use BIAB to knock together a few chords, its very easy, and much functionality is at hand for even a novice. There is a long list of stuff that could be a lot better, and many things have been on the wish list for years. Personally I don't think that RB will ever be a DAW, like the big boys, so I don't see a need for a separate program. If you are going to export to a DAW you would not export to RB and then to Sonar/Cubase/Logic etc..

Every time you leave a program, then you loose its functionality. It can become difficult when actively working on a program to find you need to jump around through tunnels. This is why I feel that the best of BIAB should be integrated with the best of RB and their be one package instead of two. Because I also believe that most features need to be revised and improved, I think the GUI should be totally rewritten and a new product launched. Every year PG take a lot of Money from us, and sure the real tracks are great, but product development is meagre and shaky, probably because of vast acres of legacy code - I guess. Recently we have lost the ability to customise the GUI menus, been told we were getting bonus tracks which we already had, and the new layers don't save/hide properly, I also understand the XML is proving problematic (from threads). There is a lot to love, but I don't think this update is good. I still want record to be easy and in house - not in windows.


Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,633
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,633
Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
First off I respect this point of view BIAB has a wide user base for differing needs. IMO if you use BIAB to knock together a few chords, its very easy, and much functionality is at hand for even a novice. There is a long list of stuff that could be a lot better, and many things have been on the wish list for years. Personally I don't think that RB will ever be a DAW, like the big boys, so I don't see a need for a separate program. If you are going to export to a DAW you would not export to RB and then to Sonar/Cubase/Logic etc..

Every time you leave a program, then you loose its functionality. It can become difficult when actively working on a program to find you need to jump around through tunnels. This is why I feel that the best of BIAB should be integrated with the best of RB and their be one package instead of two. Because I also believe that most features need to be revised and improved, I think the GUI should be totally rewritten and a new product launched. Every year PG take a lot of Money from us, and sure the real tracks are great, but product development is meagre and shaky, probably because of vast acres of legacy code - I guess. Recently we have lost the ability to customise the GUI menus, been told we were getting bonus tracks which we already had, and the new layers don't save/hide properly, I also understand the XML is proving problematic (from threads). There is a lot to love, but I don't think this update is good. I still want record to be easy and in house - not in windows.


ZeroZero,

I hope that my below post doesn't come across as antagonistic or argumentative because that is not what I intend at all. I write simply because I find the following comment of yours disappointing and misleading and I cannot let it pass.

Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
Every year PG take a lot of Money from us

You've been around on the forums longer than I have and you know that PG Music never "take" money from anyone.

If a customer wants to pay for a product that PG Music sells then a transaction takes place. If that customer then feels that they haven't got their money's worth, PG Music offer a 30 day window wherein the customer can ask for a refund... no questions asked. I've seen this happen a few times over the years. How can this possibly be interpreted as "taking money from us"?

You mention that you don't think this update is good. I disagree because, for me, the update is excellent. Since your needs are different from mine, though, maybe it's not value-for-money for you. I don't know. If that's the case, and you are unhappy with BIAB/RB 2016, why complain because you chose to buy it? Simply return the program. I know that PG Music will support your decision wholeheartedly if you are within that 30 day window.

Since I first bought BIAB in 2006, I have found PG Music outstanding to deal with and I have a great deal of respect for Peter and his team. They have done a great job in creating something that, in so many ways, is truly unique. Even today after so many years, every time I click on generate and a top-notch musical backing is created, I'm amazed.

Regards,
Noel

P.S. Like you I am a user and am not a PG Music representative.


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!

Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.

Holiday Weekend Hours

It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:

Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm

Regular hours
resume Tuesday, May 19th!

Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!

Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!

Don't wait - order today!

Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!

Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.

Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.

If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!

202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!

Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.

Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.

Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!

And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.

The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,436
Posts805,095
Members40,121
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
Newest Members
Jerry Gerber, Fjane, vieumotar, dpckeys, Bloc
40,121 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 130
DC Ron 100
rsdean 96
WaoBand 82
Today's Birthdays
Saxfred
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5