Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
First off I respect this point of view BIAB has a wide user base for differing needs. IMO if you use BIAB to knock together a few chords, its very easy, and much functionality is at hand for even a novice. There is a long list of stuff that could be a lot better, and many things have been on the wish list for years. Personally I don't think that RB will ever be a DAW, like the big boys, so I don't see a need for a separate program. If you are going to export to a DAW you would not export to RB and then to Sonar/Cubase/Logic etc..

Every time you leave a program, then you loose its functionality. It can become difficult when actively working on a program to find you need to jump around through tunnels. This is why I feel that the best of BIAB should be integrated with the best of RB and their be one package instead of two. Because I also believe that most features need to be revised and improved, I think the GUI should be totally rewritten and a new product launched. Every year PG take a lot of Money from us, and sure the real tracks are great, but product development is meagre and shaky, probably because of vast acres of legacy code - I guess. Recently we have lost the ability to customise the GUI menus, been told we were getting bonus tracks which we already had, and the new layers don't save/hide properly, I also understand the XML is proving problematic (from threads). There is a lot to love, but I don't think this update is good. I still want record to be easy and in house - not in windows.


ZeroZero,

I hope that my below post doesn't come across as antagonistic or argumentative because that is not what I intend at all. I write simply because I find the following comment of yours disappointing and misleading and I cannot let it pass.

Originally Posted By: ZeroZero
Every year PG take a lot of Money from us

You've been around on the forums longer than I have and you know that PG Music never "take" money from anyone.

If a customer wants to pay for a product that PG Music sells then a transaction takes place. If that customer then feels that they haven't got their money's worth, PG Music offer a 30 day window wherein the customer can ask for a refund... no questions asked. I've seen this happen a few times over the years. How can this possibly be interpreted as "taking money from us"?

You mention that you don't think this update is good. I disagree because, for me, the update is excellent. Since your needs are different from mine, though, maybe it's not value-for-money for you. I don't know. If that's the case, and you are unhappy with BIAB/RB 2016, why complain because you chose to buy it? Simply return the program. I know that PG Music will support your decision wholeheartedly if you are within that 30 day window.

Since I first bought BIAB in 2006, I have found PG Music outstanding to deal with and I have a great deal of respect for Peter and his team. They have done a great job in creating something that, in so many ways, is truly unique. Even today after so many years, every time I click on generate and a top-notch musical backing is created, I'm amazed.

Regards,
Noel

P.S. Like you I am a user and am not a PG Music representative.

MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026