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#338688 03/01/16 10:59 PM
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Hi. I used a rhythmn guitar riff 1585. I found the one I wanted. I have lost it. How can I find the same one again. I have regenerated many times and cant find it again. cheers

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You may be able to use Multi-Riff in RealBand to reproduce it and find it faster.

What version of BiaB? That could make a difference.


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That... is the pro and the con of Real Band....

Every time you regen a track it changes the track. So.... if you have a track with something in it that you really, really like.... freeze it or export it.

I love that feature since quite often, the guitar and piano leads are not exactly what I want. But if I regen the track... and export each generation to my DAW, I have a number of tracks that are similar but not exact and that lets me create a smoking hot solo by editing the tracks for the best parts in each track.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
That... is the pro and the con of Real Band....

Every time you regen a track it changes the track. So.... if you have a track with something in it that you really, really like.... freeze it or export it.

I love that feature since quite often, the guitar and piano leads are not exactly what I want. But if I regen the track... and export each generation to my DAW, I have a number of tracks that are similar but not exact and that lets me create a smoking hot solo by editing the tracks for the best parts in each track.


Correction for RB generation. Generation and/or regeneration of a track is different in RB from Biab.

In RB, you can generate any selected area of a track and the whole track will not generate, just the selected section. RB can select from a single bar or to the whole track and any length in between. Multiriff will generate 7 generations of a selected area. Any one of the 7 generations can be used, any number of the selections can be saved and used. The seven generated tracks can be saved to individual tracks and cut/pasted/merged into an 8th unique non-generated track that you compose.

In a recent song, Say I Do, I used the multiriff function to generate 7 versions individually in each location I wanted a fill or solo for the lead guitar. I made a total of eighteen multiriff insertions. That equates to 126 live player takes to choose from. Using the start early, end late feature is a useful tool to make more musical transitions in areas that a particular generation may have sounded off or abrupt.


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My version is 2016 Realband. Is it possible to find the Riff again or not ? cheers. I do have the riff saved on a version of the song that I wont use. How can I use this in the new song by copying somehow? cheers

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I have also checked the 7 riffs. It is not there.

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Originally Posted By: soulagent
My version is 2016 Realband. Is it possible to find the Riff again or not ? cheers. I do have the riff saved on a version of the song that I wont use. How can I use this in the new song by copying somehow? cheers


A Realtrack generated the riff so it exists in the real track audio. That file(s) (the raw audio of the RealTrack) can be accessed and that particular riff can eventually be found and copied and inserted into your song by using a DAW. Realband is a DAW and can handle this.

But, if you already have the audio isolated on a saved audio track, you can accomplish the same with that audio and no need to spend time to review the RealTrack.

I don't know how long it would take, but eventually that audio riff would be generated.

EDIT - Using the multiriff feature by selecting the specific bar or bars where it occurs would likely speed your search since you can continually regenerate that particular selection but there is no guarantee since we don't know exactly how the RealTrack algorithm goes about composing any specific riff, chord or transition between chords. It's possible your exact riff is a combination of several different pieces of audio from the file and it could statistically take a very long time for that combination to generate again.

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"I have also checked the 7 riffs. It is not there."
if it is not in that 7 try another 7 and so on - you may find an even better lick - and having the realcharts enabled will give you the notation - selecting the DI version will also let you add you own fx.

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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
So.... if you have a track with something in it that you really, really like.... freeze it or export it.


I don't know if you just miswrote this or what but this is the Real Band forum and we're talking about RB.

RB IS A DAW. You don't freeze tracks in a DAW, they're already frozen by default. If you want to add something or change something just arm an empty track and generate whatever you want to your hearts content. There's 48 tracks to work with which is plenty for most of us. That new track has nothing to do with your other tracks. They're already "frozen" but that's a useless term when you're talking about DAW's. Nobody talks about how 3 tracks of a 4 track tape are somehow frozen. They simply exist as prerecorded tracks. Nothing changes unless you deliberately erase or record over them.

Are you maybe thinking of the blue Biab tracks that show up if you open a Biab song in RB? The first thing you should do in that case is check the box that says "Make all Biab tracks regular tracks". That turns them into individual audio or midi tracks just like what you have in Sonar.

People all the time think that RB is somehow just another version of Biab. Not true. All RB is is a standard DAW that has some Biab functions added on. Once you've imported or opened Biab tracks and you're worried about generating over them just check that box. That's one of the first things that was requested way back when RB was created.

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Originally Posted By: soulagent
My version is 2016 Realband. Is it possible to find the Riff again or not ? cheers. I do have the riff saved on a version of the song that I wont use. How can I use this in the new song by copying somehow? cheers


If the above is true, you can open said (original) file, and export the desired generated track as a wav file .. then import the resulting wav file to your current project.
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