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Anyone have some insight in this? http://gostica.com/soul-science/440-hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-us-from-natural-432-hz/To my surprise, I can actually select 432 Hz in Vocaloid, but cannot find how to do it in BiaB...
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Yes, all my life I have used that tuning. I know that some instrumentalists always tried to get a crispier tone and there are tunings even above 440 Hz. Now it would be nice to actually compare the same tune played in the two tunings. In this case I don't want to have it done by my computer's math skills, but actually played it on instruments. (Reasoning: Maybe the wood or metal of musical instruments resonates differently at the slightly lower tuning.)
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The entire universe is vibrating....
and yeah... I've heard this theory about how somewhere along the line, someone changed from the natural tuning of 432 to 440... it all music as I hear it and it all sounds good.
BTW: most synths will allow you to tune them to something other than A-440
Personally, I have nothing against A-440 or whatever frequency you want to call HOME.... but if we're working together on a project I will insist that everything be in tune with A-440. It's just how I roll.
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I don't know about what the article claims about violence. Not enough data and references - and it all seems to 'cosmic' to me.
On the other hand, I do know that the earth's magnetic field oscillates 9.6Hz and 432 is a multiple of 9.6 but 440 is not.
Many years ago I took my mother-in-law to a magnetic resonance "clinic", and it helped the symptoms of her Parkinson's disease.
There are many actual clinics using magnetic therapy, but this one was from a company seeking investments for a new, more powerful bed for FDA trials.
So under approval, he carefully documented everything and since he was looking for as many volunteers as possible, I figured what the heck, I may as well try them too.
I did some research at the National Institute of Health's pubmed site and found many published papers on the benefits of magnetic resonance therapy.
I had severe hereditary bursitis in my hip and arthritis in a finger that was due to a sports accident (basketball). I had minimized both about 90% with diet. To my surprise, the magnetic pulses took away the remaining 10%
I talked to the guy about it, and he said he uses square waves, north polarity at 9.6Hz and multiples of 9.6 but never exceeding 48Hz.
Since I took electronics in college, I asked a lot of questions and got more details about it as well.
I ended up buying a home unit on-line and still use it today. That arthritis in my little finger doesn't bother me on the guitar anymore. I still follow the diet as well. The combination of both has actually 'cured' me and I am no longer a candidate for hip replacement.
So as a multiple of 9.6Hz, that 432Hz just might be something.
Who knows?
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I just tuned my guitar to 431.5 and when I hit the first note I fell into a worm hole and seem to be spinning in utter silence below infinity down into a bottomless black pit where I cannot see or hear anything. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I get out of this???
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I just tuned my guitar to 431.5 and when I hit the first note I fell into a worm hole and seem to be spinning in utter silence below infinity down into a bottomless black pit where I cannot see or hear anything. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I get out of this??? Just tune up to Open G and use a slide. You'll cruise right out of that hole.
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Thanks man!! You saved me! The first person I saw on re-entry was a smiling Keith Richards with a Jack Daniels in his hand and he said:
"Blahh, woaal, geeeol, maa-ate, hellouah, mannnnaeuellll slumblueah."
Does anyone know what that means???
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I thought about it a bit more, and decided that my Yamaha C5 Grand also only likes A-440. It might be a bit difficult if the gang turns up for a jams and says "let's do it in A-432 today for a change" Whoa!
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Thanks man!! You saved me! The first person I saw on re-entry was a smiling Keith Richards with a Jack Daniels in his hand and he said:
"Blahh, woaal, geeeol, maa-ate, hellouah, mannnnaeuellll slumblueah."
Does anyone know what that means??? "Blahh, woaal, geeeol, maa-ate, hellouah, mannnnaeuellll slumblueah. will you tune up that damn guitar You see I speak Stoneese!
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That's good Mario, because he actually said it backwards in honor of George Martin.
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Ah yes, the famed Dr. Leonard Horowitz, author of 'Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse'. In his monumental, history-making, book the Horowitz/Puleo team reveals the original musical scale, a 3,000 year-old buried treasure encoded in the Bible, that leads to the discovery of encoded mathematical intelligence required for understanding how the human race, and planet earth, will be Divinely spared and inspired during this period of great tribulation and pandemic illness. Since reading the book I continue to have a compelling yen to ride my guitar like a pogo stick while humming 'Oh Bury Me Not On The Lone Prairie', and all at the speed of 432 cycles per second. 
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Thank's guys.. A lot of interesting comment here... I just have some friends that swear to the 432 tuning, and says it makes a world of difference in they're well being.. They usually use some software and convert all they're music to this.. So I was just wondering if BiaB had any tuning dialog for this like I found in Vocaloid... How deep it works or how much it means for people in general, I have really no idea....
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if in fact there is/was a conspiracy, I bet the illumiNAUGHTY were involved... (dey jes' so dang BAYud!)
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O-Scopes have come a long way since I was in college I wonder if someone with perfect pitch (absolute pitch) can hear the difference? I had a band-mate with absolute pitch and he said some notes sounded darker or brighter to him. Notes
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The dialtone is by no means exact. There is a bandwidth in which the dialtone should be. Made curious by the discussion I checked other sources and finally found a good summary on Wikipedia. The English text seems to be an abbreviated version of the German text. English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitchGerman: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/KammertonIn short the concert pitch travels all about from 409 to 461 Hz depending on instrument, time, and preference of conductor, instrumentalist, or singer.
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Hi all
Just thought I would throw this in the pot before you all go off retuning your instruments..
Now I know why you can’t play along to commercial recordings of a big orchestra
Like the Philharmonic * *
Why are orchestras tuned differently?
In 1936 American Standards Association (and the International Organization for Standardization in 1955) accepted that A would be tuned at 440 Hz (or cycles per second). Yet despite the fact that a standard has been accepted, orchestras frequently deviate from this standard.
The San Francisco Symphony (reportedly) tunes to 441 or 442 Hz
The Boston Symphony Orchestra (reportedly) tunes to 444 Hz
The New York Philharmonic (reportedly) tunes to 443 Hz
and The Berlin Philharmonic (reportedly) tunes to 445 Hz
I know there's a tendency for some European countries to tune to 442 Hz and German orchestras are among others who tune to 445 Hz. But what makes an orchestra choose one of these numbers? Who makes the decision, the orchestra's leaders/committee or the conductor? What is the point of making this distinction? Why, after standardizing a tuning system, go to the trouble of changing it by so slight a degree?
(For the sake of this question, let's not take into account period instruments or ensembles which are famously tuned to anything from 415 Hz to 490 Hz)
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Mike, to partially answer your questions our piano tuner and I had a similar conversation on his last visit. Our upright piano is tuned to 432Hz. I asked him why and he said older upright pianos, ours is over 100 years old, sound warmer at 432Hz. Also it puts less tension on the strings and wooden parts. He said spinets and in house baby grands and grands sound better, a little brighter, at 440Hz. Symphonic orchestras like to tune at 442-444Hz because it is quite a bit brighter than 440Hz. Concert solo grands are usually tuned to 445 Hz or higher. This is the brightest a piano can be but it also puts more wear and tear on the wooden parts and there are a lot of string breaks when tuned that high. He said he keeps a tuning book on his clients so he knows how the piano should be tuned.
Thus the lower the Hz tuning the warmer and less wear and tear on the piano while higher Hz tuning the brighter the sound with the most wear and tear on the piano.
Note he said that he tunes the concert pianos at the local colleges either monthly or bi-monthly depending on the college.
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