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Wonder of the Sugar Beach

A Smooth Jazz song.

****** Song Summary *************
Title: Wonder of Sugar Beach
File:Wonder of Sugar Beach.MGU
Key=G , Tempo 135, Length (m:s)=3:03
4 bar intro, 32 bar chorus, from bar 5 to bar 36. Repeat x3 choruses
Melody has 378 notes, Melody harmony is < no harmony >(0)
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Volume Changes,
Style is _JZFNKHS.STY (Jazz Funk w/ Horn Section )
MelodyCustom Synth is Synth/Plugin Loaded

RealTracks in style: ~1433:Bass, Electric, JazzFunkGroovin Ev16 110
RealTracks in style: ~1437:Piano, Electric, Rhythm JazzFunkGroovin Ev16 110
RealTracks in style: ~1435:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm JazzFunkGroovinChords Ev16 110
RealTracks in song: 2593:Horn Section, Background CroonerBigBand9-Part Sw 110
RealTracks in song: 1307:Guitar, Electric, Soloist SmoothJazzPoppy Ev16 090 (Bluesy)
RealDrums in style: JazzFunkGroovin^1-a:HHSdStk, b:HHSnr
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Hope u enjoy it !
All comments are highly appreciated...


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Hi Trygve,

Yet another fine creation to add to your collection! It's a great chord progression and I really liked the melody and the instrumentation. Your mixing continues to get better and better, too.

In case this is useful information...

...one thing I noticed as I listened was that sometimes the realism of the instruments was lost because it sounded like the playing was humanly impossible. Then I looked at your track tempos and song tempo. That's when I saw that your Realtrack tempos were designed for 90 - 110 bpm and your song speed was 135 bpm. My personal experience is that if I use Realtracks designed for slower tempos and get them playing at speeds significantly above their recorded tempo, I reduce the effectiveness of my backings because increased tempo impacts on the quality of realism and stretches the boundaries of believability. (That's just how I hear it, though.)

Overall, I really enjoy listening to your music and hearing how you continue to get more and more sophisticated with your use of BIAB. You're becoming quite a music master!

All the best,
Noel


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Trygve,

You've got a lot of nice things going on there. But.. I had the same thought as Noel - the guitar solo sounded as though it was stretched too far from it's intended tempo. The moog was a bit loud compared to the backing tracks - might bring it down some (3 dB maybe to sit in the mix better). Everything else is mixed nicely...

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Hi Trygve,

nice chords and arrangement.
I agree with Noel on the tempo of the
lead guitar.
Enjoyable listen.

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Excellent smooth jazz number Leo!! You put music together really well. I always think Steely Dan when I hear those horns. I don't have BIAB 2016 yet-I think those are new? Can't wait to play with them. Cool stuff!! Take care. Greg

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Very smooth!

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi Trygve,

Yet another fine creation to add to your collection! It's a great chord progression and I really liked the melody and the instrumentation. Your mixing continues to get better and better, too.

In case this is useful information...

...one thing I noticed as I listened was that sometimes the realism of the instruments was lost because it sounded like the playing was humanly impossible. Then I looked at your track tempos and song tempo. That's when I saw that your Realtrack tempos were designed for 90 - 110 bpm and your song speed was 135 bpm. My personal experience is that if I use Realtracks designed for slower tempos and get them playing at speeds significantly above their recorded tempo, I reduce the effectiveness of my backings because increased tempo impacts on the quality of realism and stretches the boundaries of believability. (That's just how I hear it, though.)

Overall, I really enjoy listening to your music and hearing how you continue to get more and more sophisticated with your use of BIAB. You're becoming quite a music master!

All the best,
Noel


Thank you so much Noel ! Your advice is always so much welcome.. It's like a course in music making for me... And that's why I love this forum ! Thank's a bunch for taking time, both to listen and to write this comment.... I listened to it again, and I could notice what you mentioned....


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Trygve,

You've got a lot of nice things going on there. But.. I had the same thought as Noel - the guitar solo sounded as though it was stretched too far from it's intended tempo. The moog was a bit loud compared to the backing tracks - might bring it down some (3 dB maybe to sit in the mix better). Everything else is mixed nicely...

floyd


Thank's a lot Floyd ! Yes, I can agree to that loudness of the moog after listen to it again...Thank you so much for taking your time to listen to it and give feedback ! I appreciate it a lot...


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Originally Posted By: boehm
Hi Trygve,

nice chords and arrangement.
I agree with Noel on the tempo of the
lead guitar.
Enjoyable listen.

Guenter


Thank's a lot for your feedback Guenter !


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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Excellent smooth jazz number Leo!! You put music together really well. I always think Steely Dan when I hear those horns. I don't have BIAB 2016 yet-I think those are new? Can't wait to play with them. Cool stuff!! Take care. Greg


Thank's a lot Greg ! Yeah, those horn are awesome ! And yes, new in the 2016 version... I use them "all the time"....


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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Very smooth!


Thank's David !


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Hi Leo,

I thought I had commented on this about 2 minutes after you posted it, but I must have failed to save it... so here goes again.

Those horns really are awesome! I think they add a lot to just about any song that contains them!

Regarding the various observations about recommended BPM for various real tracks, those are things that people learn thru experimentation, and you are apparently giving the program a pretty good workout lately, so you are probably learning in leaps and bounds!

The fun you're having with BIAB shines through in your compositions! Keep 'em coming!

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Hi, Trygve !

I liked your tune very much
as I also liked the style you
used, I have used it myself
or a quite similar one a
time ago ! Really Swings !!!!


Cheers
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Not a Jazz fan but nicely done just the same.
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Originally Posted By: Rob4580
Not a Jazz fan but nicely done just the same.
Rob


the same goes for us, but this one's very smoothly produced and we love that moog!


We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/


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Originally Posted By: Pat Marr
Hi Leo,

I thought I had commented on this about 2 minutes after you posted it, but I must have failed to save it... so here goes again.

Those horns really are awesome! I think they add a lot to just about any song that contains them!

Regarding the various observations about recommended BPM for various real tracks, those are things that people learn thru experimentation, and you are apparently giving the program a pretty good workout lately, so you are probably learning in leaps and bounds!

The fun you're having with BIAB shines through in your compositions! Keep 'em coming!


Thank's a bunch Pat ! For ur always kind and uplifting comments and user advice... I really appreciate it ! And yepps ! I will let 'em keep coming !


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Originally Posted By: dani48
Hi, Trygve !

I liked your tune very much
as I also liked the style you
used, I have used it myself
or a quite similar one a
time ago ! Really Swings !!!!


Cheers
Dani


Thank's Dani ! Cool! Can I hear the result?


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Originally Posted By: Rob4580
Not a Jazz fan but nicely done just the same.
Rob


Thank's Rob ! How can anyone not be a Jazz fan ? LOL...;-)


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Originally Posted By: RnAM
Originally Posted By: Rob4580
Not a Jazz fan but nicely done just the same.
Rob


the same goes for us, but this one's very smoothly produced and we love that moog!


Thank's RnAM ! Whom can not love the MOOG ! ! ? ? LOL..;-)


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Hello, Leo

Nice tune and nice arrangement.
I also agree with Noel on the tempo and agree with Floyd on mini moog volume.
And I felt the difficulty of using Ev style and Sw style at the same time.
I also have sometimes experienced the same problem.
Enjoyable listen.

Best Regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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