Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
I think you have a point JJJ.

I touched on this but not the legal side in a post some weeks ago and that point was RT/RD's are REAL MOT MIDI. That's the beauty of the concept, taking world class players and putting them in the studio with real instruments. Not playing midi controllers and sample libraries. How many times have we all talked about that in the many threads about separating the Real Drum recordings into separate parts of the drum kit? With a real studio recording of an acoustic drum kit that's pretty much impossible to do but that ability already exists using midi but that's not what the RD's are all about. They're real not midi.

The recent exception is the new synth RT's. I certainly don't know for sure but I suspect that PG either owns the synths themselves or legally paid for their use. Now that I see what I just wrote I strongly suspect that since PGM is a well known commercial music company they must have paid someone for the use of those synth sounds. I kind of doubt that simply owning a Moog or Prophet for example means PGM can use it for these commercial RT's without paying. I think Dave Smith would get a cut if it's one of his Prophets.

A few years back someone requested some jazz scat RT's and other vocal type background things. I have a Kurzweil PC3 that has their Take 6 samples in it and at first I thought hey, I can create a vocal user track and help this person out. But then I thought the exact same thing. Take 6 vocals have been a Kurzweil exclusive soundset for years and maybe I shouldn't be doing that with their samples.

Since I'm not an attorney either I would like for Peter to chime in about this. If it is OK then I will do some background vocal RT's using my Kurzweil. You guys would love those.

Bob

Thanks for sharing your perspective Bob! I feel bad for upsetting Frank but I honestly believe we need clarification on the legalities of this! Maybe jford is correct and this is far enough "downstream" from the original samples that it is not an issue. And even if it is an issue, almost certainly, our sharing of UserTracks here is unlikely to draw the attention of folks like IK and NI. But I would really love to get PG's opinion on this. If it is OK I would also like to create a few UserTracks from the samples I have collected over the years!