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Here's the Soundclick streamer (problematic but OK) https://soundcloud.com/rayc/the-keeper-pygmy-beat-extendedAnd here is a link to a 320 MP3 which sounds a tad better... https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmz7td96pcts96p/The%20Keeper%20-%20Pygmy%20Beat%20Extended.mp3?dl=0Stylistically this is punkish but more probably new wave. Well, it has a '77 vibe. Here's a track I'm almost done with. Soundcloud is a bit rough on the cymbals though. Pygmy Beat Extended's The Keeper (copyright r.cochrane) featuring RealDrums Rock even8. Greg Loyacano (a fantastic drummer but happy enough to play along with the box on this one) on guitars (Les Paul goldtop, SG greyburst & Mosrite copy into double mic'd Marshall and 4x12 = mics blended). Bob Harris on all vocals and I did the Vantage bass into a Behringer compressor into a BDI21 DI then into a Scarlette 8i6 interface. The High hat was a little loud in the stereo drum file. there is no way of adjusting that effectively so I used a sharpish EQ dip and a high shelf to bring it under control. Ihad some grief getting the right drum kit for this song as RealDrums will only play as part of RealStyles so it was case of listening beyond the other instruments before using the PlugIn mode to drag the drums into Reaper to mix'n'match. The Keeper V1 And the keeper did come Bringing keys for the cage He walked through the corridor And onto the stage Ch1 As he turned to the crowd Seated in his mind And searched all the faces For a love lost to find V2 His tears fell like kisses On dark xenophobes And his eyes blinked like lanterns’ Beneath unlight strobes Ch 2 As he turned to the crowd Crowded with their thoughts Subconscious of the time And of how it distorts. V3 And so bowing he turned And he walked to the wings His mind floated in mem’ries Of less painful things Solo (double intro) V4 He followed the chalk marks On the bare timber walls On past lighthouses dormant And through empty halls Ch 3 As he turned to the crowd Pinned like ghosts enthralled In the spotlight’s arc As his past reinstalled V5 Still on through the evening Of a starless white sky To a place where the hangman Himself had to die Ch4 As he turned to the crowd On earth and on snow To fade into Present, Past Future to know Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers ray
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A good rocker. It's well played throughout. Vocals might should come up just a tad. I enjoyed this one.
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Charlie Fogle,
Thank you kind sir! I'll take you recommendation into a subsequent remix.
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Ray,
A good punk sound going. The guitars all sound good. Everything sounds good, for that matter. Nice punchy bass.
The vocal is good, but a little low. Same with the drums. Both are overshadowed by the guitars (by about the same amount - not a lot).
I like it.
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Hi Ray.
A good driving sound.
Could maybe use a bit of variety in the dynamics and the arrangement.
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nicely done, the Clash all over again!
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Cool song. Lotta drive packed into that production and the vocals are definitely "hittin' the note." I'm down with floyd regarding bringing the vocal up -- perhaps 2db and cranking the drums up considerably. BTW, I'm not sure I understand what you meant by: "I had some grief getting the right drum kit for this song as RealDrums will only play as part of RealStyles so it was case of listening beyond the other instruments before using the PlugIn mode to drag the drums into Reaper to mix'n'match." I never use styles. I just start throwing into the chord sheet the RT's and RD's that fit (hopefully) what I'm shooting for. Even with a style you can substitute any RD or RT for what appears in the style. Anyhow there shouldn't be an issue previewing the possibilities in the chord sheet before dumping them into the DAW. Pardon the digression! And even more pardons if I misinterpreted what you wrote  There have not been many displays of this type of production here at the forum. We both think you've got it going. Enjoyed the listen! J&B
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Hello, rayc
Very good driving Rock.
It reminds me British Rock such as Kinks.
Powerful Guitars and Vocals.
Lots of fun.
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Floyd Jane,
Thanks for the response. Interestingly the drums are louder in the .wav file. The scloud compression seems to have pulled the guitars up. Interesting. I will keep your observations in mind when I revisit the track for a final mix before mastering.
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ROG,
Thanks for listening. I had thought the lead & chorus tremolo had added the needed dynamics but will listen again - perhaps the trem guitar didn't make it through compression.
I look at it again.
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David,
Thanks mate.
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RnAM,
thanks. It wasn't built to sound like the clash but when the vocals were added that's the way it came out. A welcome comparison nonetheless.
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Janice & Bud,
Thanks for the detailed response.
I had lifted the drums by 1/2 a dB before posting but it does seem, now I've listened to the original mix file, the MP3 for upload & the Soundcloud streamer, that the compression has altered the dynamics. I'll have to look into that. I'd rather not mix for streamers so may have to post a link to an MP3 instead.
Regarding the preview problem...I can preview from the RealDrum info dialogue box BUT drums won't play from within the chord page or from the main prog with chords inserted and structure/variations added.
If I pull up a Real Style the drums will play though bass often doesn't as the error message says that the bass is missing - something must've gone wrong with them in the download - hopefully I can fix that when the disc/s arrive. I end up hearing the drums but as part of the whole style interpretation of the chords, tempo & selected RealDrums. It is odd and I will have to take up the matter with the techs I assume.
Thanks for your interest.
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animarorecords,
Thanks. I's a buzz being mentioned in the same thought bubble as The Kinks.
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hi great job on this thanks for sharing eric
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Janice & Bud,
Thanks for the detailed response.
I had lifted the drums by 1/2 a dB before posting but it does seem, now I've listened to the original mix file, the MP3 for upload & the Soundcloud streamer, that the compression has altered the dynamics. I'll have to look into that. I'd rather not mix for streamers so may have to post a link to an MP3 instead.
Regarding the preview problem...I can preview from the RealDrum info dialogue box BUT drums won't play from within the chord page or from the main prog with chords inserted and structure/variations added.
If I pull up a Real Style the drums will play though bass often doesn't as the error message says that the bass is missing - something must've gone wrong with them in the download - hopefully I can fix that when the disc/s arrive. I end up hearing the drums but as part of the whole style interpretation of the chords, tempo & selected RealDrums. It is odd and I will have to take up the matter with the techs I assume.
Thanks for your interest.
Cheers
rayc I've been a beta tester for the last two Mac editions and I never heard about or personally ran into that issue. Call the tech folks for sure. The entire PGMusic staff consists of great folks. They are always courteous and helpful. If you haven't already they will likely have you do a reset.
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Cool rocker!! Mix sounds great to me. Energy is great. Vocal is perfect for this style. Great stuff!! Take care. Greg
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Nice punk tune
Good work
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