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One size fits all algorithms I guess....yawn

Soundcloud will now master your track....for free


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I think it's through Landr or uses Landr to compress your music.
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I used LANDR didn't seem to sound much different to me.

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Sixchannel, following you now. cool I love your tracks. Reminds me of Burt Weedon and the Shadows etc. grin

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I guess that for most folks, (non-home recording enthusiasts)... this is a great deal.

I'll roll my own thank you.


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Originally Posted By: dga
I used LANDR didn't seem to sound much different to me.


Ive tried it too. On the low compression I reckon I do a better job manually.
On their Max loudness, it just crushes the Life out of all the little nuances i hid in their for the listener to find. Smile!
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"Mastering" a 128kbps MP3? whistle

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Originally Posted By: 90 dB
"Mastering" a 128kbps MP3? whistle


It's a cylinder effect smile


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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
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"Mastering" a 128kbps MP3? whistle


It's a cylinder effect smile


Mastering engineer Bob Katz seems to imply in the interview linked below that there is a way to properly master a MP3 file. However most people do it (improperly) themselves because of the additional cost.

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"Mastering" a 128kbps MP3? whistle


It's a cylinder effect smile


Mastering engineer Bob Katz seems to imply in the interview linked below that there is a way to properly master a MP3 file. However most people do it (improperly) themselves because of the additional cost.

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He prefers to encode the MP3 from the master, though.


"...you can get a marginally better sounding MP3 if you take it from the 24-bit file that precedes the 16-bit file on the CD. The MP3 encoders can do it a little bit better if they are given a higher resolution as the source."


Soundcloud is taking a 128kbps MP3 and "mastering" that. eek

What dynamic range? grin


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Its just SC trying to justify their rates with new features. If somebody big doesn't buy them soon I'm afraid we will all need a new playground for our songs.


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Its just SC trying to justify their rates with new features. If somebody big doesn't buy them soon I'm afraid we will all need a new playground for our songs.


I don't think that's true, not your first statement anyway. As far as I can tell even the free soundcloud accounts have access to this service?

But yeah, no question they are having financial problems. Hopefully they will pull it together because although the site is far from perfect, it is, in my opinion, the best site out there for uploading music.

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Yawn is right. You have to EQ every track and use a little art in the final mix with many tools at your disposal to get the right kind of separation (and the right kind of compression) if you have real music.

If you are just sampling beats and doing trance music, who cares, go and ahead and sound like everyone else I guess.

I like sounding like myself, but that's just me I guess.

There is NO SUCH THING AS INDUSTRY STANDARD MASTERING OR SOUND. That is more of a goofy sales gimmick than the tough blades ads running on T.V.

I wish people who stop trying to sell this silly concept. It is absurd. If you are writing real music every song is different, and every mix is different, and every final master is different.

Unless, of course, you are writing garbage, then it doesn't matter.

As Herb said I prefer to roll my own. Good one Herb.

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It is a real shame how they are making us all use this! Oh wait...it is only for people who want to use it! smile

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Landr seems to be the big player in this online mastering business now.

They also have some sort of partnership with CDBaby, I get messages from CDBaby pushing LANDR on a regular basis.

They are supposed to do more than just take a song and compress it.

From the CDBaby site:
"Our powerful cloud-based mastering tool is driven by algorithms that understand the nuances that make every song unique." and "LANDR listens to and understands and applies a custom set of tools and parameters for each song."

I have never tried it myself, but I probably will at some point, why not? Nothing to lose, they give you a free preview, if you like it then you can pay for it.

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Yeah CDBaby ran our stuff thru whatever they are using (landr?) before feeling free to post it to youtube .. what a mess.
I had to go put the CD on to make sure it really didn't sound like that ..

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Yeah CDBaby ran our stuff thru whatever they are using (landr?) before feeling free to post it to youtube .. what a mess.
I had to go put the CD on to make sure it really didn't sound like that ..




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Yeah CDBaby ran our stuff thru whatever they are using (landr?) before feeling free to post it to youtube .. what a mess.
I had to go put the CD on to make sure it really didn't sound like that ..


Wow, I didn't think they would be able to do that without permission!

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Might be of interest to BlueAttitude.

Apparently it is for my own good and their profit!
It has happened to many over the last couple years.
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2013/08/13/stealingartists/

CDBaby's explanation:
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