" (and remember millions of top40 hits use MIDI drums in the first place) and after re-mix they sound better than Real Drums."

Ya know Notes, you are always making statements like this, but never posting examples or proof to back it up. frown The videos & audio on your site sounds like every other midi band I have heard, better than most, but not as "pro" and "better" like you state all the time.

This is NOT a slam on your music or sound, but Midi is Midi, and there are very few folks who can program it convincingly.

Now, as for EDITING midi, that is fine, it IS quicker than audio for sure. And using the Midi you can improve on the drum sound, especially badly recorded drums. wink But a well recorded kit will sound better than ANY midi-replaced triggered samples, mainly because the samples used will never match up to the rest of the kit......unless you replace the whole kit, and then what is the use? Real drummers have a saying about midi done like this...

"Count to four & be a bore"

Having a REAL drummers performance across multiple tracks would be light years ahead in quality to any midi, except for music that needs a locked-to-the-clock beat.

A tool I have used with fantastic results for years is a free-b called Toontrack Drumtracker. It pulls the hits out of an audio track & converts them to Midi, keeping the feel of the track. It has been gone for awhile now, but there are other programs out there that can do the same, and the drums will sound way better than any midi track.

I am working on getting net access at my new digs next week, and when I do I will get a demo up of what I am talking about.

As for the op request, this has been made before, but really a few of us in my area just does not see it happening. If you take a look at the Smart Loops Multi-Track Loops, that would be the way to do it. You have a Stereo File to build the track, and then when you are ready to mix you import the matching multi-tracks. The problem with that is you would need to have ALL the multi-tracks from the start, for this reason alone...

Each mic picks up the sound of other drums & cymbals. If you start trying to just extract each sound out a stereo file & then rebuild the track on separate ones, it will sound funny & disconnected...try it and see.

After a few listens, even in a mix, you will notice it....


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