I'm trying to input this song into BIAB and struggling because it has bars of different lengths. I have tried every thing I know without success. I know someone out there will remember this Nina Simone and Animals classic soul song - your assistance is much appreciated.
Best Regards Nigel
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
You can change the number of beats in a bar by selecting the bar and pressing F5 and changing the value. You cannot add beats, only remove them, so if you need a bar of 6/4, try having one bar of 2/4, then back to 4/4 on the following bar.
Hope this answers your question OK.
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In this song (Where you sing "Please don't let me be misunderstood") I need a bar of 4 beats and then a bar of 2 beats. After the 2 beat bar the drums come back in OK but all the other instruments are delayed by a further 2 beats. Then unbelievably in the subsequent bar all the instruments catch up!!! Why don't you try it yourself? - I'm using a style called _RDHO_LS.STY
Any suggestions?
Thanks & Best Regards
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
In this song (Where you sing "Please don't let me be misunderstood") I need a bar of 4 beats and then a bar of 2 beats. After the 2 beat bar the drums come back in OK but all the other instruments are delayed by a further 2 beats. Then unbelievably in the subsequent bar all the instruments catch up!!! Why don't you try it yourself? - I'm using a style called _RDHO_LS.STY
Any suggestions?
Thanks & Best Regards
I tried it myself. I created a song with 8 bars and 3 choruses using _RDHO_LS.STY I set bar 5 to 2-beats and bar 6 to 4 beats. The song played through 3 times with 2 beats on bar 5 every time, and all instruments playing on every bar.
OK, here's a good place to start: What version of BiaB do you have? Do you have any frozen tracks? Do you have any Holds on any bars (e.g. Eb...)?
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I recreated VideoTrack's example and obtained the same results as he did. However, in past projects I have encountered issues similar to NigelSpiers when using F5 to mute, fade out, fade in, change and back to normal selections on tracks as well as with holds, rests and shots.
All of the F5 track selections responded fine and there were no issues. I found that when I placed F...bd in bar 4; It replicated NigelSpiers problem with all instruments back to playing on measure 7.
Thanks for reply. I have latest last version of BIAB for Windows No Frozen tracks But I do have hold as below
Bar 1: Ab ("I'm just a soul who's") Bar 2: Fm ("Intentions are good" Bar 3: Db..D (this bar set to 2 beats as you suggested) ("Oh Lord") Bar 4: No chord (this bar set to 4 beats as you suggested) ("please don't let me be misunder") Bar 5: Fm ("stood")
Bar 5 is the problem - the bass guitar and organ don't come back in until the 3rd beat of this bar.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks & Best Regards
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
Yes, you need to upload to some web site\service and then provide the URL link to it. Or you can email to me at dan at jazzmandan dot com and I will do it for you.
I've found that if I use a 2-beat or 3-beat bar in a song, it's sometimes necessary to put a chord on beat 3 in the cell containing the 2-beat bar.
With this in mind, try adding a chord to beat 3 (and even beat 4) of bar 3. Just use a simple chord without shot/hold dots. These chords won't play but they seem to instruct BIAB somehow.
1. Bars 17 & 33 - where for some odd reason the instruments only come in half way through the bar.
2. Bars 37, 38, 39 (in the song its the chorus with following lyrics: "If I seem edgy, I want you to know, that I never meant to take it out on you etc")where I need the Eb to come in earlier in a synchopated way. I've tried to put them on 4th beat of previous bar but that doesn't sound right either.
1. Bars 17 & 33 - where for some odd reason the instruments only come in half way through the bar.
Following on from Noel's suggestion I tried putting Db.d on the first beat of Bar 16. That way only the drums continued to play through bar 16 and all the instruments resumed on the first beat of bar 17. Hope this helps.
Definitely try the beats 3 and 4 (in the 2-beat bar) approach I mentioned. This will solve the "instruments coming in halfway through the bar" problem.
Noel, I tried your suggestion with the file that Nigel posted. I put a chord on beat 3 (and later beat 4) in the 2 beat bar 15. All instruments resumed in bar 16 in both cases. And all instruments started correctly in bar 17 on beat 1.
However, I got the impression from Nigel's file that he only wanted the drums to play through bar 16.
Thanks for passing on the information. I didn't try Nigel's file and I could have easily missed something as I tend to scan through posts too quickly sometimes!
Yes the phantom chords worked a treat thanks Noel.
Now all I've got to do is the syncopated Chorus:
Bars 37, 38, 39 (in the song its the chorus with following lyrics: "If I seem edgy, I want you to know, that I never meant to take it out on you etc") where I need the Eb to come in earlier in a syncopated way. I've tried to put it on the 4th beat of previous bar but that doesn't sound right either.
Any suggestions?
Best Regards Nigel
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
The time sig is 4/4. That is what BIAB sees throughout the tune. At some point the time signature changes to 2/4, but BIAB still has the 4/4 in mind. When you change back to 4/4 BIAB is caught on the wrong foot and is out of sync with the tune until you give it a synchronisation trigger.
Put the Db..d on the first beat of the first 4/4 measure after the change to 2/4 and all seems to be good -- at least on my computer.
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and keeps the drum playing, although with a little emphasis on the third beat.
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