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Hi
RB: making a click track to a short audio file. Then aligning to the click track.
Saving both as *.SEQ and *.SGU and with the audio as *.WAV.
BB: no synch between play start of BB and audio. Tempo map in *.SGU from RB looks ok.
BB cuts audio file.
Is this as good as it gets?
cheers Thomas
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Hi Thomas.
Two things to try. One if you are using version 2016 and the other is just BIAB in general.
BiAB needs the audio file to have two bars of silence at the beginning. You can set this in RB as there is an offset button you would select. The tracks would then list as -2,-1,0,1,2 and so on.
With the current build of BIAB, imported audio has to be adjusted.
Open the audio editor, there is an icon on the main screen.
Rt click with your mouse on the audio file and select - the
Permanently apply Bar 1 offset to track by deleting or inserting silence.
Hope that helps. Also, I just made a post in the Recording, Mixing,Performance and Production Discussion Group about syncing audio with BIAB/RB generated tracks.
Charlie
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Hi Charlie
Thanks for your advice.
For some reason the audio file is not complete when saved in RB with audio. Is this the acidizing by RB corrupting what I believed to be the original wav?
So in BB I imported the original wav that was used in the first instance with RB.
Carried on with Audio Edit in BB, however "Permanently apply bar 1 .."was greyed out.
Select Whole and then right click and select "Mark this point bar 1.." and then it's possible to do the "Permanently apply bar 1 ..."
Play and audio does seem to synch with BB however it's erratic, e.g. when reaching bar 3 beat 2 it jumps back to bar 3 beat 1 and continues.
Don't know if I should cry of laugh ...
Read your referenced posting and listened in on your efforts in soundcloud. Sounded very good and this is what I'm after, giving new life to old recordings.
Thomas
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Thomas, whether in Band in a box or RealBand, if you import audio, the audio has to go through a process in order to follow a chord progression and tempo map.
In BIAB, this is done by processing the audio through the Audio Chord Wizard, which creates a tempo map, determines the key signature and analyzes and import the chords onto the chord sheet.
In RB, you can use the ACW in the same way or manually create a click track if you have 2016 version.
In either program, even if you record audio live, there still must be a tempo map and completed chord sheet for audio and BIAB to sync.
The problem you are describing appears that a wav or mp3 with the same name as your BIAB song is being imported into BIAB. If you have a BIAB project named Abc.sgu and an audio file in the same folder where the BIAB sgu file resides named Abc.Wav, BIAB will open that audio file into Abc.sgu project when you open the project.
If you create a chord progression in BIAB and record yourself playing along with the BIAB song, you are following along with the existing tempo map and chords in the key of the song. If you are attempting to import pre-recorded audio into A BIAB project,then BIAB has to be given the tempo, chord progression and key signature in order to play along with the music.
I hope I'm understanding your issue and giving the correct advice to help get your old recordings into BIAB/RB and have them play nice with the software.
Charlie
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Charlie
thanks for the additional input.
I am with you all the way but the software is not ...
Did a lot of testing and got the impression that it got more stable fully closing the BB/RB before opening RB/BB. Previously I just closed the current project/song. Maybe just imagination.
Anyhow made some questions on another of your contributions on tempo matching.
Thomas
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"Did a lot of testing and got the impression that it got more stable fully closing the BB/RB before opening RB/BB. Previously I just closed the current project/song. Maybe just imagination.
Anyhow made some questions on another of your contributions on tempo matching."
I always only have one or the other program open. I have also found doing that allows the open program to run with more stability.
I have tried to answer your questions in my post in Recording, Performance and Production forum.
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 08/31/16 04:46 PM.
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