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Does anyone else have this problem with BIAB 2016 for Mac?
Most times, when I try to render a song, all tracks, except drums, quit before the end of the song. Even when I've rendered individual tracks by dragging and dropping the same thing happens.
I'm rendering to Logic Pro X.
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Ian,
I interpret your post to stay that you are trying to drag and drop all tracks and individual tracks directly into Logic Pro. Is my interpretation correct?
Have you tried using the render dialogue that's found under the Audio menu item? This will render tracks to a folder? The tracks can then be loaded manually into Logic Pro via the Logic Pro menus.
If you haven't tried the above, it would be worth doing so to see if the problem persists.
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Yes rendering to a folder is the first way I do it. Then when I find the rendered tracks aren't complete I have tried dragging them individually with the same result.
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Thanks for the extra information, Ian. Now I understand a bit better. That's most strange. Some questions that spring to mind are... 1. Does this happen with all songs? 2. How far short of the end does the rendering stop (e.g. 2, bars, 10 bars, 1 bar etc)? 3. Do you any special rendering settings? 4. Is the BIAB 2-bar ending activated (4-bars for Realtracks) or do you use your own custom made ending? (The ending settings are found under Song Settings.) Regards, Noel
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Thanks for the interest Noel. In answer to your questions:
1. 90% of the songs have this problem.
2. Usually about halfway through the song. The weird thing is that drums are never affected. They play right through.
3. I have no special rendering settings. All the files are rendered as .aif files
4. I never use the BIAB endings. All my songs have custom made endings.
Thanks again.
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Ian, As a test... Download the file "test render 1.sgu" and see if that renders properly for you. Generate the song and let it play through once before rending. HERE IS THE LINKDid the song play through alright prior to rendering? Did the song render satisfactorily? Lastly, a another question that springs to mind. When you create a song file, do you always start it from scratch using the "File | New" option? (It occurred to me that because you use your own endings, you might be using an existing song file as a starting point for making a new song file.) Regards, Noel = = = = = = For your reference, here is how I created the file. 1. Under the File menu, select "New". 2. Create a 16 bar song using some basic chord progression. 3. Set the number of choruses to 1. 4. BIAB's automatic endings are enabled.
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Hi again Noel.
Yes the rendering was fine on that test. I'm wondering, however, if the length of my songs have something to do with the problem.
Generally my songs are a lot longer and more complex than the test.
In answer to your other question I don't normally use the "new" option.
I usually open BIAB and search for a style then input the chords.
I notice you are in Oz. I'm in Brisbane. Where are you?
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Hi again, Ian.
I'm in Melbourne! Pleased to meet you. There are a few of uz from Aust. here on the forums these days.
Glad the test was fine. Maybe we're getting somewhere.
When you say your songs are longer... could you be a little more specific. How many choruses and bars would be a normal song?
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Noel most of my songs are jazz based and most are standards. They are usually at least three choruses of 32-44 bars in length sometimes more. Sometimes they are just one chorus but well in excess of 100 bars.
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Ian,
The reason I asked is because BIAB has a 256 bar limit.
Three choruses of 32-44 bars should generate fine. It's surprising if they are not.
If you are using a single chorus, anything up to 255 bars should be ok.
As an experiment, it would be worthwhile taking one of the three choruses (32 - 44 bars) songs and generating it. Then render it and see what happens.
Then, as a comparison re-activate the BIAB automatic ending under song settings and generate and render the song with the automatic endings engaged.
Do you use repeats, D.S. al coda (etc.), at all?
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I'll try that tonight Noel, thanks. I only use the repeat, DS etc if I'm printing the song for performance.
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Hi again Noel. OK it made no difference to the longer song rendering. It still cut out way before the end. However, I should have told you before, that the wave pattern is still visible even when the sound has cut out.
As an experiment I changed the rendering from .aif files to .wav file and so far it has worked. Of course it takes up more space but I can live with that.
Just another question please. Do you know anything about, or have you used, Garritan software. I know it sounds pretty good but have also been told it is not that compatible with Logic X which is what I use.
Any ideas?
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Ian, I have BIAB for Windows so I'm not sure how Garritan drives on the Mac platform. I'm a big fan of Garritan. I have both Jazz And Big Band and Garritan Personal Orchestra 4. If you're interested, the flute and the oboe in the following arrangement of mine are from Personal Orchestra 4. Oh! Susanna variations for flute and oboe (link)It's good that you've got the rendering working. I'd send PG Music Support an email and let them know that AIF does not work properly but WAV does. It might be useful information for them. Also, in the email, send them the URL of this thread so that they can read all about the issue and different things that were tried. Regards, Noel
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Noel that's very nice indeed. Lovely baroque sound.I have heard some of the Garritan sounds and they are very good. Their sax sounds are probably the most authentic I've heard.
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However, I should have told you before, that the wave pattern is still visible even when the sound has cut out. Hi, If the waveform is visible on the track in Logic but the sound is cutting out, that could indicate an issue in Logic. If the audio is really cutting out in the WAV or AIFF you exported, I'd expect that to be reflected in the waveform itself. Did the sound cut out if you play the file in iTunes as well? Thanks Kent PG Music
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I had a similar problem but the actual wave form was truncated at varying points although the length of the file was correct. I posted my solution in the Tips forum under a heading of regelation issues resolved. As mentioned check it with iTunes or any wave editor. This problem emerged for me while I was beta testing but ultimately it turned out to be a memory management issue with Logic Pro and my host of plugins.
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