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Help. I use holds often, but ran into a problem. I’m sure there’s a work-a-round. I’m not a trained musician, so I’ll explain as best I can.
For simplicity, the only instrument I’m using is 2504 Piano with held chords. In a 4/4 song, 65 tempo, there are 4 particular bars.
(1) G C
(2) Am D
(3) No chords
(4) G Am
Bar 1 has 4 beats, with G for beat 1, and C for beat 3.
Bar 2 has 4 beats, with Am for beat 1, and D for beat 3.
Bar 3, I changed beats from 4 to 2, with no chords, so the D continues for this bar.
Bar 4, I changed the beats back to 4, with G for beat 1, and Am for beat 3.
That plays fine, but I want to hold the D in Bar 2/Beat 3, so that Bar 3 is silent for its 2 beats.
When I input “D…” in Bar 2/Beat 3, the D holds, Bar 3 is silent (for its 2 beats, which is what I want),
but the G in the 1st Beat in Bar 4 is also silent, then the Am plays normally and the song continues at 4/4.
What am I missing?
Andy
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PacoAlpha,
Try putting a chord on beat 3 in bar 3. Because the bar is only 2 beats, it won't matter what the chord is since beat 3 will not play.
This solved my problem which sounds similar to yours.
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Noel
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I don't know if you are a handsome man, Noel. But you are damn SMART man! That worked!
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Neither of the above, Paco  Glad it worked for you.
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OK, I'll bite.
Why?
Why didn't Paco's song work? Why is this workaround, that I would never have guessed, necessary? Has it been reported to PG Music?
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I have no idea why it works, Matt. With the increased PG Music presence on the forums, I imagine that they have read this, now.
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And this question should have been in the Biab forum.
Just sayin...
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And this question should have been in the Biab forum.
Yes, and I'll bet there's nothing in the Help on this either (typing and ducking at the same time)
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The issue is not tied to the 2/4 bar change.
We already got the same issue with Strings some months ago :
To enable Strings to mute during a rest bar, change the name of the chord of the rest bar :
/C… /C.d : The strings won't mute in bar#2
/C… /Cm.d / The strings will mute in bar#2.
I hope PG will output a fix about this annoying issue. Furthermore, using this workaround, we get a wrong chord sheet, because in the last example, we introdure an unwanted Cm just to mute the Strings.
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Hi Paco,
It looks like Band-in-a-Box isn't taking the time signature change on bar 3 into account when calculating the length of the held chord. It's seeing that the hold is for a bar and a half in a 4/4 song, so is holding for 6 beats instead of 4.
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the issue, I'll make sure it gets reported right away.
Thanks
Kent
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Hello Kent, What I said in my previous post is that the issue is NOT related to time signature change. In the example I gave, the time signature 4/4 is NOT changed. So IMHO, don't waste time in this direction to fix the issue. See my first thread about this issue Holds Strings dated 02/11/2015. The issue was confirmed by other users.
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Hi John-Luke,
This appears to be a different issue, there's no rest in Paco's example.
This issue is definitely related to a time signature change, but I'll check out your other thread and make sure that issue has been reported as well.
Thanks
Kent
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Last edited by Kent - PG Music; 09/21/16 08:18 AM.
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