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Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366185 09/19/16 01:18 PM Off-Topic
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rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Joe, sans amp products are analog only, if I'm not mistaken. No digital amp simulation in their entire product lineup. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366251 09/19/16 10:18 PM Off-Topic
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GHinCH Expert Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,492 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany	Originally Posted By: Joe -PG Music Hi ChinCH, all great guitar tones! - Digital Amp simulations have become quite popular. Have you heard about Sansamp? if not you can learn more about it here: http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/ Thank you for reading the post, Joe. No I didn't know that yet. And as rockstar_not writes, there are "only" analog simulators. By description of the products, those that I'm interested in are sold out. But guitar tone is not only the amp. Guitar tone is the body of the guitar, the gauge and the material of the strings, the pickup or the combination of pickups that you use, the qualitiy of your fingers or the pick, it is the force that you use to treat the strings (do you hit them hard or do you caress them -- as the extremes), and it is the settings of the different knobs available to you. Actually, I'd risk a bet that you can't figure out the setup if you listen to guitar tones without knowing who plays which instrument, using which amp, and so on. (Caveat: The songs that are played are not the well known recordings.) Here I gave some examples on a different question where the tone of the guitar might mislead you about the actual instrument played. Have somebody play that for you so that you only listen but don't see player and instrument and take your guesses. Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366303 09/20/16 05:34 AM Off-Topic
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Will B - PG Music PG Music Staff W Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 408	I have a real soft spot for Fripp's tone in this video, it's so violin-like. Will - PG Music

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366387 09/20/16 01:01 PM Off-Topic
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA	Yeah, Fripp has some very memorable sounds. Belew had some cool ones too. Heroes is another of Fripps memorable sounds. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Will B - PG Music #366390 09/20/16 01:15 PM Off-Topic
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rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted By: Will B - PG Music I have a real soft spot for Fripp's tone in this video, it's so violin-like. I have a preset in my Zoom G5 which yields this tone spot on with a neck humbucker selected. Here's a quick little example I made tonight using this preset - of course more practice is needed with such a high gain setting. https://soundcloud.com/rockstar_not/fripp-example The tone is only part of Fripp's sound. It's also his interval choices which are at play. Last edited by rockstar_not; 09/20/16 03:48 PM. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? rharv #366437 09/21/16 03:14 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,216 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: rharv Yeah, Fripp has some very memorable sounds. Belew had some cool ones too. Heroes is another of Fripps memorable sounds. Yes they had some memorable sounds. Don't forget about Jeff Beck! Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer. It's called the Heineken Maneuver. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? rockstar_not #366444 09/21/16 04:43 AM Off-Topic
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Will B - PG Music PG Music Staff W Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 408	Originally Posted By: rockstar_not I have a preset in my Zoom G5 which yields this tone spot on with a neck humbucker selected. Here's a quick little example I made tonight using this preset - of course more practice is needed with such a high gain setting. https://soundcloud.com/rockstar_not/fripp-example The tone is only part of Fripp's sound. It's also his interval choices which are at play. Wow, this sounds great. Thanks for putting this together! And you're totally right about how important the intervals are, he nails a lot of sympathetic resonance with the distortion overtones. Will - PG Music

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? rharv #366446 09/21/16 04:47 AM Off-Topic
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Will B - PG Music PG Music Staff W Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 408	Originally Posted By: rharv Yeah, Fripp has some very memorable sounds. Belew had some cool ones too. Heroes is another of Fripps memorable sounds. The Bowie cover? From Heavy Construktion (or whatever the name is)? Y'know, I'm actually not too familiar with it. I should check it out! But goodness me, who could forget: The distorted bass that starts up about halfway through... Chills! Last edited by Will B - PG Music; 09/21/16 04:47 AM. Will - PG Music

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? rockstar_not #366458 09/21/16 05:53 AM Off-Topic
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OP Joe -PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,664	Hi Rockstar_Not, There is a plugin version of a Sansamp that is included with certain Avid products. I used it while running Pro tools 8. I found the tones from it are quite solid! Check it out here: http://www.avid.com/plugins/sansamp-psa1 Cheers, Joe

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366464 09/21/16 06:17 AM Off-Topic
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rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted By: Joe -PG Music Hi Rockstar_Not, There is a plugin version of a Sansamp that is included with certain Avid products. I used it while running Pro tools 8. I found the tones from it are quite solid! Check it out here: http://www.avid.com/plugins/sansamp-psa1 Did not know about that. I was just referring to their website content. Pretty ironic that there is a plugin version of their analog amp simulators (which are great products by all accounts). I'm a huge amp simulation fan; have been for over 10 years. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Joe -PG Music #366465 09/21/16 06:19 AM Off-Topic
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,814 Winston Salem, NC USA	Pretty much anything by Duane Eddy, ++ HERE ++ is a video of him on David Letterman. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Will B - PG Music #366467 09/21/16 06:21 AM Off-Topic
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rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted By: Will B - PG Music Originally Posted By: rockstar_not I have a preset in my Zoom G5 which yields this tone spot on with a neck humbucker selected. Here's a quick little example I made tonight using this preset - of course more practice is needed with such a high gain setting. https://soundcloud.com/rockstar_not/fripp-example The tone is only part of Fripp's sound. It's also his interval choices which are at play. Wow, this sounds great. Thanks for putting this together! And you're totally right about how important the intervals are, he nails a lot of sympathetic resonance with the distortion overtones. That was the stock patch. I would probably change the noise gate threshold higher to get rid of some of the scratchy sounds. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Jim Fogle #366473 09/21/16 06:25 AM Off-Topic
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Will B - PG Music PG Music Staff W Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 408	Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle Pretty much anything by Duane Eddy, ++ HERE ++ is a video of him on David Letterman. That's a great vid, Jim, but did you mean to link to this one? Which is also great! Will - PG Music

Re: What is your favorite Guitar sound? Will B - PG Music #366571 09/21/16 03:04 PM Off-Topic
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,814 Winston Salem, NC USA	Thank you for the link correction Will B. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

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